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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    Actually I'm also for keeping the armor restricted.
    I'm actually legitimately curious about this stance, considering the almost role agnostic armor pieces the game already has (like the replica sky pirate/sky rat gear, the crafter gear replicas dropped for Malikah's Well, the full plate PVP Armors, etc). With all those in game already, which are breaking role armor conventions, why are you still against opening up glamour restrictions? Not trying to diss you, I'm genuinely interested at the why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    I'm actually legitimately curious about this stance, considering the almost role agnostic armor pieces the game already has (like the replica sky pirate/sky rat gear, the crafter gear replicas dropped for Malikah's Well, the full plate PVP Armors, etc). With all those in game already, which are breaking role armor conventions, why are you still against opening up glamour restrictions? Not trying to diss you, I'm genuinely interested at the why.
    I just don't want to see roles wearing armor that resemble other roles. I want tanks to look like tanks or wearing tank armor respectivly. I find it a bit annoying to see healers in tank armor etc.
    And yes, I'm a bit "sad" that they broke their convention with the sky pirate replicas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    I just don't want to see roles wearing armor that resemble other roles. I want tanks to look like tanks or wearing tank armor respectivly. I find it a bit annoying to see healers in tank armor etc.
    And yes, I'm a bit "sad" that they broke their convention with the sky pirate replicas.
    While I Can't say I quite agree given how some NPCs run around, I understand where you are coming from and why. Thanks for the insight, your answer is appreciated!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    I just don't want to see roles wearing armor that resemble other roles. I want tanks to look like tanks or wearing tank armor respectivly. I find it a bit annoying to see healers in tank armor etc.
    And yes, I'm a bit "sad" that they broke their convention with the sky pirate replicas.
    Hasn't this ship sailed though? the game's aesthetic has degenerated to the point where this is no longer true, and hence, a decision has to be made. Given we know the majority of the playerbase would be against restricting back up so the game looks cohesive it is better to go the other way and make it so people aren't locked out.

    Leaving it as it is won't make you happy, because you already have a 60% chance of finding at least one player wearing a troll costume to a fight and it sure as heck doesn't make the majority of players happy because there are some genuine pieces that would make for a good outfit they can't use because of these restrictions.

    Sure I'll give you this, in a world where tanks still looked like tanks it would make a good case to preserve this integrity, but the integrity, we can all agree, is no longer there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    I just don't want to see roles wearing armor that resemble other roles. I want tanks to look like tanks or wearing tank armor respectivly. I find it a bit annoying to see healers in tank armor etc.
    And yes, I'm a bit "sad" that they broke their convention with the sky pirate replicas.
    I'm the same as you: outfits that come out of the fantasy world I have in my head tend to disturb me. I hate soubrettes and other wacky ‘disguises’ (frogs, I hate you).

    But then... In practical terms, in a game like FFXIV where you can dress up in modern clothes (leather jackets, jeans, converse) and other... Well, there's not much point in limiting glamour any more. If visual consistency is important to you, you're already obliged to ignore a good proportion of the glamours you come across IG. In that sense, allowing people to expand their mirage boards won't really have any impact.
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    sorcerer, btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by CVXIV View Post
    sorcerer, btw
    You do realize though that one, he's a Voidsent so gear does not even apply, and two, his design and character are taken directly from a past FF game where character appearence was literally dictated by their Job? (And his design was directly based on Yoshitaka Amano's artwork).

    Also he's a villain anyway and antagonists usually didn't give two kahoots about things like 'Job appearance', which also justified by this trope.

    Really, I agree glamour restrictions should be loosened, but a FFIV villain design is not exactly the best proof for the arguement.
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    Last edited by Enkidoh; 01-07-2025 at 10:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    You do realize though that one, he's a Voidsent so gear does not even apply, and two, his design and character are taken directly from a past FF game where character appearence was literally dictated by their Job? (And his design was directly based on Yoshitaka Amano's artwork).

    Also he's a villain anyway and antagonists usually didn't give two kahoots about things like 'Job appearance', which also justified by this trope.

    Really, I agree glamour restrictions should be loosened, but a FFIV villain design is not exactly the best proof for the arguement.
    I am very much aware of who the character I posted is
    it is merely a funny connection because of how much of a non-sorcerer Golbez looks
    If you want directly in game examples - fierce tyrant attire and archfied attire

    for glamour restrictions, I would be fine if the only thing restricted would be artifact armor
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    Pleeease remove role restrictions on glamor!!
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    There's no other excuse besides that they don't have the technical know-how, resources or man-hours to work on the glam systems and combining the glams.

    The Viera hat and Hrotgar hat will most likely be solved within three years by some voluntary angel from the dev team that does this by working overtime for us.
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