"Nothing to do"

[Lorika]

It is not, it means battle scenarios. Unless you count fishing as battle against hunger - it is not it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment

But it is since UO and EQ.

And BTW

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What a reliable source ^^

[Lilapop]

PvE : Player Versus Environment.

Sorry, but gathering and Fishing fit perfectly to this description.... And don't get me wong, i hate fishing, but it's still PvE content.

Huh. Strange take. Elaborate?

[Daralii]

Huh. Strange take. Elaborate?

There are not other players playing as the fish.

[Lilapop]

There are not other players playing as the fish.

Wouldn't "vs" imply there's some form of conflict? Fishing has to be some of the most peaceful content this game has.

[NamiRocket]

When people say "Nothing to do" they mean PvE content.

Yeah, those players controlling the fish are tough customers.

[Sunhwapark]

Well, I prefer fishing over botany and mining...

[Kaurhz]

When people say there's nothing to do, they are referring to nothing that holds their interests. People shouldn't be forced to go into a fairly niche section of the game just to get what little scraps of content there is.

The developers should be doing a much better job, and no amount of "Go do all those Big Fish", and "Haven't you thought about doing Frontlines until you feel like crying for the several thousand victories achievement" is going to resolve the serious content deficit.

It's an utter sad state of affairs when the suggestions amount to "Go do content from 3 expansions ago". We have been doing this already for long enough.

[Ardeth]

When people say there's nothing to do, they are referring to nothing that holds their interests. People shouldn't be forced to go into a fairly niche section of the game just to get what little scraps of content there is.

The developers should be doing a much better job, and no amount of "Go do all those Big Fish", and "Haven't you thought about doing Frontlines until you feel like crying for the several thousand victories achievement" is going to resolve the serious content deficit.

It's an utter sad state of affairs when the suggestions amount to "Go do content from 3 expansions ago". We have been doing this already for long enough.

I'm just worried the exploratory zone is going to suck like the last two did. We also still don't have a relic grind. They are doing the best PR to make people not play their game. It's a joke.

[Kaurhz]

I'm just worried the exploratory zone is going to suck like the last two did. We also still don't have a relic grind. They are doing the best PR to make people not play their game. It's a joke.

To be honest, I don't actually have faith in it being something new. Just Bozja with a fresh coat of paint, probably. But at the very least there is some enjoyment to be found in exploratory zone.

You would have thought with the bare minimum effort put into designing the relic acquisition last expansion, that they would've had the perfect idea already to release the relics sooner.

[Ardeth]

To be honest, I don't actually have faith in it being something new. Just Bozja with a fresh coat of paint, probably. But at the very least there is some enjoyment to be found in exploratory zone.

You would have thought with the bare minimum effort put into designing the relic acquisition last expansion, that they would've had the perfect idea already to release the relics sooner.

It definitely just looks like Bozja 2.0. Maybe it will be less convaluted, lol.

I actually liked the last relic grind. I know loads hated it, but I liked having a use for my unlocked tomestones. Plus, the two before it were attached to thouse horrid zones, so it was nice not to have to worry about it.