Job Quests NEED to be Mandatory.

[CamuiKushi]

That's a really cool idea. Honestly the gear recommendation needs to be fixed in a lot of ways. I shouldn't be level 58 and getting recommended a level 30 ring over a level 57 one.

[cutestfox]

Oh woe is me what is the community going to ask for next, basic understanding of a job? But how then will people like me throwing shit at a wall to reach level 50 on my 7th housing alt do?

Yes precisely. Stop removing systems and educate instead
Begging SE to remove systems from the game, babysit people harder and dumb it down even more instead of build upon is an atrocity

Instead, do something positive like add and improve upon what we have. Add a tutorial menu pop up at 30, let there be a 5 or 10% exp earring anyone can have that goes up until level 50 that everyone would love to have
Make it better. Don't remove it

[Ascended_Demon]

Yes precisely. Stop removing systems and educate instead
Begging SE to remove systems from the game, babysit people harder and dumb it down even more instead of build upon is an atrocity

Instead, do something positive like add and improve upon what we have. Add a tutorial menu pop up at 30, let there be a 5 or 10% exp earring anyone can have that goes up until level 50 that everyone would love to have
Make it better. Don't remove it

So you want people, to tell people like yourself to do better (when you seem to be refusing to do so) instead of the game forcing you do so? Sorry, but at some point you don't get to expect people to hold your hand and tell you "you're doing fine sweetie" when you refuse to have any sort of desire to do better yourself. It's one thing when you have trouble, and thank people for their patience, but when you don't care a bit about it and continue to do it because it's allowed? No, you shouldn't expect people's understanding and for them to hold your hand like you don't know any better. What you're getting is push back because people are telling you your behavior is deplorable.

[cutestfox]

So you want people, to tell people like yourself to do better (when you seem to be refusing to do so) instead of the game forcing you do so? Sorry, but at some point you don't get to expect people to hold your hand and tell you "you're doing fine sweetie" when you refuse to have any sort of desire to do better yourself. It's one thing when you have trouble, and thank people for their patience, but when you don't care a bit about it and continue to do it because it's allowed? No, you shouldn't expect people's understanding and for them to hold your hand like you don't know any better. What you're getting is push back because people are telling you your behavior is deplorable.

That's not what I said. The point people are bringing up is that the job stone should be mandatory so people don't miss it and inadvertently nerf themselves
My response to that is to improve the system so that it isn't missed

Those that know and have reason to avoid it can continue to do so. And if not, then make it even better and make it worthwhile

[Ascended_Demon]

That's not what I said. The point people are bringing up is that the job stone should be mandatory so people don't miss it and inadvertently nerf themselves
My response to that is to improve the system so that it isn't missed

Those that know and have reason to avoid it can continue to do so. And if not, then make it even better and make it worthwhile

Except, you have no reason to avoid it. You want the game to continue to enable poor decision making for whatever inane reason rather than the game itself expecting and forcing you to do better? And for what reason do you support this? So you don't waste time? Sorry but you're already wasting time by choosing not to. You are, in essence, causing your dungeon runs to go longer but I'll admit this is not an easily measured metric. But what you are doing is willingly inflicting your choice on other people and quite a few people have voiced their distaste for this already, and somehow that is not enough.

[cutestfox]

Except, you have no reason to avoid it. You want the game to continue to enable poor decision making for whatever inane reason rather than the game itself expecting and forcing you to do better? And for what reason do you support this? So you don't waste time? Sorry but you're already wasting time by choosing not to. You are, in essence, causing your dungeon runs to go longer but I'll admit this is not an easily measured metric. But what you are doing is willingly inflicting your choice on other people and quite a few people have voiced their distaste for this already, and somehow that is not enough.

Why do you keep jumping to the conclusion that dutyfinder with 3 randoms is the only option?
I play with my friends. Why shouldn't we be able to do this anymore?
And barring that, duty support exists to play the dungeons with the npcs. And being unsync (or sync blu) carried with friends

[Ascended_Demon]

Why do you keep jumping to the conclusion that dutyfinder with 3 randoms is the only option?
I play with my friends. Why shouldn't we be able to do this anymore?
And barring that, duty support exists to play the dungeons with the npcs. And being unsync (or sync blu) carried with friends

Ah I see what this is. Sorry, but you are still refusing to address that you have no reason to avoid getting your job stone/skills. You can play with friends all you want but that doesn't change the fact they have to deal with your "choice". You should consider yourself lucky you have friends willing to take you along, because if you haven't noticed there are plenty of people who wouldn't. Enjoy your content.

[Mawlzy]

I think it would be a shame to deny Cider Spider the possibility of completing level 99 content on Lancer.

[cutestfox]

Ah I see what this is. Sorry, but you are still refusing to address that you have no reason to avoid getting your job stone/skills. You can play with friends all you want but that doesn't change the fact they have to deal with your "choice". You should consider yourself lucky you have friends willing to take you along, because if you haven't noticed there are plenty of people who wouldn't. Enjoy your content.

You don't see- we are all doing this. This is how you make alts efficiently.
We've timed it countless times, and doing the jobs quests results in a slower time to 50+house unlock
It is that simple

[Ascended_Demon]

You don't see- we are all doing this. This is how you make alts efficiently.
We've timed it countless times, and doing the jobs quests results in a slower time to 50+house unlock
It is that simple

Oh! So it's all to game a system so players like yourself can hoard housing. You don't want something to slow you down, got it. In that case I think they should implement it even more now. Thanks for helping me understand.