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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    When the majority of your playerbase is casual and turned off by harder dungeons and chaotic raids, I don't believe going "all in" on more of that type of content is wise. The mid-core/hardcore players represent the minority.
    I do not even think, that they make this with intention. I guess, this neglect of casual players happened accidentaly. For me, it seems, that they basically lost the control over the game. The MSQ failed badly, the graphical upgrade backfired, the casual content is consumed way too fast, then bots everywhere etc. I do not believe, that it was planned. And so much hardcore content is in the game because it is braindead easy and very cheap to make. You take a normal boss, you increase some numbers, you add one ability to it and you are basically done. It is propably one hour of work for one person. I guess, the hardcore content is a sort of damage control for them. Because they are not able to produce interesting normal content fast enough.




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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    I don’t know how bad or normal this is nor do I really care if I’m being honest. I have my theories to the why and so on but who knows.
    basically, we're back to late stormblood numbers.
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    Vera Nova
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    Spriggan
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    MSQ was pretty bad, there's nothing to do aside from farming EX and then wait 9 months to get some wings. Pretty boring...
    I'm done with chaotic, helped a few kill runs today, obtained the hairstyle...

    I wish this game had more meaningful open world content but I feel like the game is gonna implode if a bunch of people showed up in one map.
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    Eyestrain thread - https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/501914-Dawntrail-Graphics-Update-Eye-Strain

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    Mareck Attano
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    I lost 5 friends this xpac in 7.1 because of Wuk and how bad the story has been. A few have said they might comeback if the next Xpac has nothing to do with that character and they can buy a skip to never have to deal with her. Couple that with content being poor compared to pre Endwalker and its a recipe for losing people. They also felt all the best talent went over to work on FF16 and we had all the junior devs and junior writers for this xpac.
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    Hen'iel Jackel
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    When the majority of your playerbase is casual and turned off by harder dungeons and chaotic raids, I don't believe going "all in" on more of that type of content is wise. The mid-core/hardcore players represent the minority.
    Can you stop with derailing this into yet another casual / hardcore debate?
    Not everything is black and white.
    I didn’t say anything about this stuff.
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    Antonius Bnuuy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Can you stop with derailing this into yet another casual / hardcore debate?
    Not everything is black and white.
    I didn’t say anything about this stuff.
    You can’t really avoid casual vs hardcore debate, when more resources spent on hardcore content (ranging from gameplay content to rewards like glams and mounts) means less resources spent on casual content and vice versa. And SE doesn’t seem willing to increase the general total amount of resources and development
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    Shai Rae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Can you stop with derailing this into yet another casual / hardcore debate?
    Not everything is black and white.
    I didn’t say anything about this stuff.
    It actually is pretty black and white when the minority of the players have such hatred and disdain for those of us who are the reason they have the hardcore content they get to enjoy. Period.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Pochen Lionheart
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    It's about to drop 3 more people come August

    I play with a small group of friends, and we have all canceled our three month subscriptions which run out in August. After nine years I'm over the whole thing.
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    Razaan Archemaux
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    Don't get me wrong, this numbers are shocking... but i am glab it happen. They will may be start thinking for making things right
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    Antonius Bnuuy
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    I mean, I’m not surprised, as a casual player I would drop too, if I didn’t have my sub paid for few next months already.

    Like there’s nothing to do really in current content if you aren’t interested in hardcore raiding, save for farming tomestones and some job lvling.
    I at least have some older expansion content like bozia and eureka to do due to being fairly new to the game, but casual players who are up to date with stuff really don’t have anything to do right now, you can’t even farm alliance raid glams due to one item per week limit.

    I don’t really understand SE approach to how much resources they put in developing hardcore content vs casual content . Considering that looking at achievements, hardcore raiders are at most a 10% of player base, but get more content with entirely new gear sets and mounts which I assume takes quite a lot of time and resources to make, than reminding 90% of the players.At the same time SE “doesn’t have resources” to not make half of crafted and dungeon gear just bad re-colors (sometimes releasing the same glam for the third time or not evens adding a dyeable option to it when reusing it)
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