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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    without those people you wouldn't have a game be a HC raider on haha remember that more then 90% of the player base is casual and you also have roleplayers midcore players that have been left in the dust since endwalker
    Yeah I know

    But if I was a casual player I will just sub 1 month/expansion (and casual player should do this, and well if they dont, I'll keep having content and still unsub for 12-15 month/expansion)
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    For me, there is just a profound sadness. I will shoot off my mouth on here, yes, but ultimately as a casual player who has played since the ARR beta and has spent 11 years of my life with this game being a part of it, it sucks to see it fall into this pattern of drawn out patch cycles with very little content in each (at least for me). The game is absolutely shifting its focus to players who love hardcore content, raiders and seems to be listening to the XIV content creators and what they want more than the actual player base. And listen, everyone plays for different reasons but its the content cadence schedule that is the problem.

    If long-term, casual content dropped in 7.1 - it would hold those of us over who have ZERO interest in savage, ultimate and chaotic when those players get their drops. Instead we are left with nothing for huge bouts of time. I've learned to accept this is the direction FF14 will most likely continue in, so there's not much I can really do about it. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

    Folks will say, well there is a lot to do but you choose not to do it. Yes, you're right. I don't like hard fights that I find stressful. It's not why I play. And XIV has always been more of a single player RPG in an MMO wrapping. I also struggle with memory issues and visual cue stuff, so many of these harder fights are very hard for me to do. I could watch videos over and over and see repeated mechanics over and over, and still I would not remember them. I can get by with normal content and raids because I've done them enough and they aren't as punishing, and I also refuse to be a burden on other people.

    Yes, I've been angry on these forums about the state of the game for casuals (and justifiably so). Other players on here seem to think we should be the ones to adapt and try harder content, but the truth is many of us don't want to because we simply don't find hours of progging, dying and learning a fight like that fun. It's really that simple.

    So, just quit. Well, it's easy to say that, but this game has been a special part of my life for over a decade. It's not so simple as just quit. However, I am reaching that point. And I truly feel, for me, to make the break it would need to be a permanent blowing up of the bridge. A complete character and account deletion with zero ties left. I haven't reached that point yet, but I am so so close. If the story was at least keeping me interested there would be a silver lining, but this new writing team ain't it. And I have found 7.0 and 7.1 to be some of the worst storytelling I've ever experienced.

    So, ultimately, I find myself at a crossroads (no pun intended). What I ultimately decide to do will fall to what the 7.2 and 7.3 content cadence looks like. If casual content gets pushed further to 7.4 and 7.5, I doubt I last to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
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    The game is absolutely shifting its focus to players who love hardcore content, raiders and seems to be listening to the XIV content creators and what they want more than the actual player base...


    So, just quit. Well, it's easy to say that, but this game has been a special part of my life for over a decade. It's not so simple as just quit. However, I am reaching that point. And I truly feel, for me, to make the break it would need to be a permanent blowing up of the bridge. A complete character and account deletion with zero ties left. I haven't reached that point yet, but I am so so close. If the story was at least keeping me interested there would be a silver lining, but this new writing team ain't it. And I have found 7.0 and 7.1 to be some of the worst storytelling I've ever experienced.

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    Sorry to hear all this.
    Please don't delete your account or character. Just in case
    Maybe because you entirely don't need to.
    I'm confident that if you have a break for long enough, then when you come back, you'll find you don't have the social circle anymore, you went be having a lot of fun, and you will likely leave again soon after.
    Just in case dint delete your account, because it's not necessary.

    As for the content creators, they used to have fantastic ambassadors for casual like Zepla. It's ironic if that's what they have been doing, because all I've been doing is down voting Chaotic videos to try and get the message through to YouTube to take them out of my personal suggestions. One particular content creator I just flat told you tube not to recommend them at all for anything ever again. I don't like being condescended to in my personal space. Other creators the time has been, some creators the tone has been smug and taunting. But I rarely ever see them in my suggestions so, whatever.
    There now aren't any XIV creators that YouTube suggests to me and there haven't been in a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Sorry to hear all this.
    Please don't delete your account or character. Just in case
    Maybe because you entirely don't need to.
    I'm confident that if you have a break for long enough, then when you come back, you'll find you don't have the social circle anymore, you went be having a lot of fun, and you will likely leave again soon after.
    Just in case dint delete your account, because it's not necessary.

    As for the content creators, they used to have fantastic ambassadors for casual like Zepla. It's ironic if that's what they have been doing, because all I've been doing is down voting Chaotic videos to try and get the message through to YouTube to take them out of my personal suggestions. One particular content creator I just flat told you tube not to recommend them at all for anything ever again. I don't like being condescended to in my personal space. Other creators the time has been, some creators the tone has been smug and taunting. But I rarely ever see them in my suggestions so, whatever.
    There now aren't any XIV creators that YouTube suggests to me and there haven't been in a long time.
    "Content creator" is not an accurate term imo. Sure, they may have started as a content creator who loved a game, (FFXIV for this example). But the moment they get a taste of success and viewers start tossing money at them and superchats, then its not about content or the game. It is about money. By any means necessary, and by saying or doing anything needed for the precious algorithm. Any popular content creator is a fraud that will lie as much as they need to if it brings in more subs. I don't get the appeal. They are just as bad as a stuffy, corporate suit trying to increase profit every quarter.
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    Mao nots concerned whats other peoples do. Mao quit game because game no longer funs for Mao. Is really all there is to it. Mao suggests everyones take hard look at whether or not thems still enjoy playing. If game still funs for thems, then keep playing and no worry about whats others do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraden View Post
    Mao nots concerned whats other peoples do. Mao quit game because game no longer funs for Mao. Is really all there is to it. Mao suggests everyones take hard look at whether or not thems still enjoy playing. If game still funs for thems, then keep playing and no worry about whats others do.
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    Everytime (twice) I have contacted Square Enix store support (merch and stuff) they have sent me a proper satisfaction survey.
    I wish they cared that much about how happy I am with their game. What's the point in a great store experience, to keep me coming back, when your game means I will 'not' be coming back.
    That select your reason for cancelling sub question is useless. I don't. see how they can formulate strategy based on that.
    They really ought to put some effort in to capture the reasons in a way that gives them a chance on having something to act on.
    I would by now expect the cancel questionnaire to reflect dune if the things I have seen time and again here.
    Or maybe even a 'may we contact you to follow this up?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
    Everytime (twice) I have contacted Square Enix store support (merch and stuff) they have sent me a proper satisfaction survey.
    I wish they cared that much about how happy I am with their game. What's the point in a great store experience, to keep me coming back, when your game means I will 'not' be coming back.
    That select your reason for cancelling sub question is useless. I don't. see how they can formulate strategy based on that.
    They really ought to put some effort in to capture the reasons in a way that gives them a chance on having something to act on.
    I would by now expect the cancel questionnaire to reflect dune if the things I have seen time and again here.
    Or maybe even a 'may we contact you to follow this up?'
    Has SQEX ever sent out a detailed satisfaction survey on the game? It's pretty standard to ask a subscriber base what they like, what they don't like, what they want to see more of...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Has SQEX ever sent out a detailed satisfaction survey on the game? It's pretty standard to ask a subscriber base what they like, what they don't like, what they want to see more of...
    I received one aimed at veteran players asking detailed questions a few years ago and it let me type paragraphs for my answers. There were others on this forum that received it too. There were a lot of people that didn't receive it, so I assume it didn't count them due to lack of overall subscribed time despite being old players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Has SQEX ever sent out a detailed satisfaction survey on the game? It's pretty standard to ask a subscriber base what they like, what they don't like, what they want to see more of...
    This is actually true... I've been sub for almost 10 consecutive years and never ever i've received such a thing ... ? It make me feel like they think subs are happy whenever they pay for it.

    But did this ever happen to another game from JP companies ? (Like Monster Hunter or else ?) Really curious if this is just cultural or lack of interest from them.
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