Chaotic Alliance party finder toxicity

[KanchelleLoreux]

it just follows the regular recent pattern. everything SE has put out lately has been mediocre. 7.1 was a flop.

nobody besides older people who played ff11 enjoyed the alliance raid. fru was considered lame compared to the last two ultimates. nobody asked for a 24 man savage alliance raid with garbage loot that you have to run 99 times that a single person not grabbing towers can wipe. you won't even be able to do the chaotic alliance raid in party finder soon because nobody will be doing it and the people who do lie about prog and you'll be forced to join a discord community dedicated to it. pvp got worse and feels very clunky and unresponsive. most items still don't have updated textures or dual dye channels. there's still no midcore or casual content. ff14 hit pre shb numbers of players. msq was mediocre and it's still all about wuk lamat. SE killed the venue and social communities with awful dc travel restrictions.

it is over my friends, we're stuck in the twilight years of a doomed and dying mmorpg and SE is content with sitting back and letting it burn to the ground while we pay a monthly subscription

[caffe_macchiato]

it just follows the regular recent pattern. everything SE has put out lately has been mediocre. 7.1 was a flop.

nobody besides older people who played ff11 enjoyed the alliance raid. fru was considered lame compared to the last two ultimates. nobody asked for a 24 man savage alliance raid with garbage loot that you have to run 99 times that a single person not grabbing towers can wipe. you won't even be able to do the chaotic alliance raid in party finder soon because nobody will be doing it and the people who do lie about prog and you'll be forced to join a discord community dedicated to it. pvp got worse and feels very clunky and unresponsive. most items still don't have updated textures or dual dye channels. there's still no midcore or casual content. ff14 hit pre shb numbers of players. msq was mediocre and it's still all about wuk lamat. SE killed the venue and social communities with awful dc travel restrictions.

it is over my friends, we're stuck in the twilight years of a doomed and dying mmorpg and SE is content with sitting back and letting it burn to the ground while we pay a monthly subscription

NO DON'T POST THAT! THEY MIGHT LOOK THROUGH YOUR DISCORD HISTORY! NOOOOO!

[LibitIncarne]

it just follows the regular recent pattern. everything SE has put out lately has been mediocre. 7.1 was a flop.

nobody besides older people who played ff11 enjoyed the alliance raid. fru was considered lame compared to the last two ultimates. nobody asked for a 24 man savage alliance raid with garbage loot that you have to run 99 times that a single person not grabbing towers can wipe. you won't even be able to do the chaotic alliance raid in party finder soon because nobody will be doing it and the people who do lie about prog and you'll be forced to join a discord community dedicated to it. pvp got worse and feels very clunky and unresponsive. most items still don't have updated textures or dual dye channels. there's still no midcore or casual content. ff14 hit pre shb numbers of players. msq was mediocre and it's still all about wuk lamat. SE killed the venue and social communities with awful dc travel restrictions.

it is over my friends, we're stuck in the twilight years of a doomed and dying mmorpg and SE is content with sitting back and letting it burn to the ground while we pay a monthly subscription

actually it's 50 (Worst-case scenario, no bonus runs) runs if you're talking about the mount, or 72 (Worst-case scenario, you're the only first timer you ever see in it) for the other mount, also you can survive a few towers not being grabbed

NO DON'T POST THAT! THEY MIGHT LOOK THROUGH YOUR DISCORD HISTORY! NOOOOO!

i have no reason to do that to someone who's merely sharing their opinion, and isn't trying to excuse their incredibly poor playstyle

[HavokNim]

Wow, this snowballed completely out of control just because me and other player kicked them out of a Farm party and they made a forum post instead of just joining other party...
From what I read here I have no sympathy for them, but this whole doxing and policing thing is taking it a bit too far no?

I see some casual players looking at this and thinking all kinds of negative shit and feeling discouraged from trying harder content.
I just want to say that there are parties for learning/prog and there are parties that are for farming. If you're honest with yourself and go to the parties you need to go to, you will rarely run into problems.
The toxicity in PF mostly happens when someone tries to be a smartass and sneak into a party they shouldn't be in. It's disrespectful to everyone else's time, so it makes sense that it pisses people off and they'll let you know, and when they do, you can either take the L and apologize or you can go on the forums and act like you're the victim.
Not to invalidate or discredit anyone who has had a genuine bad experience of course, it also happens some people are just assholes. This just ain't it.

[DivineP]

It's happening now in CAR, I scan these forums for feedback, however.

This one's a bad one on all sides and just shows we can have toxicity in FF.

God knows what they will do with the next.

[Mawlzy]

It's happening now in CAR, I scan these forums for feedback, however.

This one's a bad one on all sides and just shows we can have toxicity in FF.

God knows what they will do with the next.

I imagine with the remarkable success and community building that CAR has achieved, it'll be 48-person.

[Saraide]

some people just play these jobs for fun lmao. shaming people into playing how u want them to is not going make them want to play better. It should be a players choice to invest time into this vs just enjoying the game. people have lives and this content isnt supposed to be a job. i get u feel slighted by low dps, but its not required and if it was the Devs need to take that stance and enforce it

And it is always a player's choice to not play with you.

[DivineP]

Let's stop here out of dignity for the posters.

If you do EX ill give you EXy eyes -.-
Savage, I'll give you savage eyes -.-
Etc.. you get the damn eyes! -.-

[sindriiisgaming]

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Please dont conflate my experience with you as THE only experience ive had or that im salty over it. Im unimpressed that its like this that ppl are using FFlogs to gatekeep people out of content when yoshiP himself has said this is toxic and bannable.
I will appologise for getting upset that you locked it to 730, in my ignorance i was unaware that this is now the healer BIS. I have been educated otherwise and it wont happen again

This thread SHOULD have been a place for people to share experiences in pf with toxicity and for the most part im glad thats being done. i think this thread SHOULDNT get closed because i think everyone should be able to express how this experience has made them feel. so that in future SE can look back on this horrible experience and change either the difficulty of the fight, or the entry conditions. I universally agree that all this toxicity at the end of the day is SEs fault. they put literal BIS items in here i mean what are they thinking. when this turns into discord only raiding its going to mean you now NEED a discord for your BIS or you have to endure this week 1 hell again. but that also does never exhaunterate the terrible witch-hunting and abuse ive seen people in alliances receive from other players. You can always be nice, its christmas/new years for godssake. it costs nothing to be nice to your fellow man, if you dont want to stay, you can leave without going off at that person, if you dont like somebody in the alliance, you can nicely ask if they can improve on something you do not need to be horrible to them.

in regard to the person who doxxed my discord and accused me of modding, I would like if others could please report this behaviour enclosed is the following screenshot of my service account that only shows PS4/5 listed the current platform. The picture of my wol was made for me a present from a dear friend, yes i can prove this but please not on here i dont want to expose anybody on this place, if you wish to see it the discord is there. ive had many ppl literally come and harass me on discord over this thread because that user posted it. Its fundamentally against terms of service and it IS having consequences for me. as for all the things they've accused me of genuinely please just ignore it and report it. i haven't seen a single thing posted here that has shown any proof of doxxing, harassment or actual use of addons from me. the user also admitted to inflating this whole thing in here to take advantage of players who don't understand how mods work, so have at that.
*I WILL NOT BE LISTING THE CLIENT NAME HERE AS I DONT WANT TO PROVIDE AN ENTRY POINT FOR MODDERS*

Never said that you used xxx, did say that you used xxxxxxx, abused the fact that people on the forums that don't mod thinks that all mods are the same

I am genuinely very sorry for any sprout who saw this post and is now afraid to try chaotic. there are a small handful of non toxic parties so please join them and do this content, nobody should gatekeep you. The argument about needing to do rotation well and have this much dps or do this much of a parse is fundamentally against Terms of service too, and you should report it where you see it. there are videos and live letters and even screenshots posted here that clearly show YoshiP does not approve of this. to say otherwise is a complete lie

[Lilapop]

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You want SE to change the entry conditions because you were booted out of at least one party? Why?