Chaotic Alliance party finder toxicity

[sindriiisgaming]

if you've been doing this raid in pf you will understand what i mean. its no secret the general attitude of this community has shifted from " i want to help others raid" to "if you die your wasting ppls time" and never have i seen this issue more apparent than in cloud chaotic.

whether its pfs locked to 730 , pfs stating 10+ clears required, pfs saying u need this much DPS to get in or joining the pf and watching somebody get bullied. harassed dog piled on by half the group then kicked./ Honestly. this content is ridiculously toxic and its not fun to play or watch. *since some ppl didnt get this, this isn't just MY experiences. i'm referring to many comments ive seen in youtubers videos and in reddits"
making content this difficult for 24 people has absolutely been a mistake. nobody does KFF. Nobody helps new players and people bicker and troll over the smallest things. this is the WORST content they've ever released. this community toxicity as its now getting out of hand

[UkcsAlias]

nobody does KFF

The amount of MINE parties of older extremes tells me they do.

Sure its not 24p, but stating nobody does kff is plain wrong.

[DynnDiablos]

The content was designed to get casual/midcore players into harder stuff. Unfortunately, what Yoshi P doesn't understand is it will be the hardcore players that will keep the players not used to this kind of content out of it.

[Lilapop]

PFs locking to any ilvl isn't toxic. People can have whatever party they want. This community has always had toxicity, it isn't the perfect positive bastion people seem to make it out to be.

[Kaurhz]

It’s their prerogative to what party requirements they want to make. It might not be inclusive, but it certainly isn’t toxic by any means.

Also community has always been toxic, but this event has really put a light on it, alongside how dismissive the community can be.

[Johners]

On one hand, "jarvis type skill issue and press enter". On the other, you don't pay their subscription. This is week old content that released over the Christmas holiday, of course it's just the "try hards" going at it right now but it'll sort itself out in time. Chaotic seems like it'll be Discord community content in the future just like aspects of Eureka and Bozja are.

[Collin_Sky]

>square enix makes content where a single person can snowball a wipe
>said content requires 3 times as many people as normal, essentially tripling the chances of a snowball ocurring
>playerbase becomes very gatekeep-y regarding who can join
Who could have possibly seen this outcome

[Tint]

if you've been doing this raid in pf you will understand what i mean. its no secret the general attitude of this community has shifted from " i want to help others raid" to "if you die your wasting ppls time" and never have i seen this issue more apparent than in cloud chaotic.

This is nothing new. The more people there are in a content the more toxic they get. Was already the case when we did Castrum Meridianum and then Crystal Tower back in 2013.

[CidHeiral]

whether its pfs locked to 730 , pfs stating 10+ clears required, pfs saying u need this much DPS to get in or joining the pf and watching somebody get bullied. harassed dog piled on by half the group then kicked./ Honestly. this content is ridiculously toxic and its not fun to play or watch.

People have every right to put whatever requirements they want on a group to ensure a smooth clear. If you don't like those requirements you have every right to not join that party. If you find the content not fun to play or watch then don't play or watch it.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

On one hand, "jarvis type skill issue and press enter". On the other, you don't pay their subscription. This is week old content that released over the Christmas holiday, of course it's just the "try hards" going at it right now but it'll sort itself out in time. Chaotic seems like it'll be Discord community content in the future just like aspects of Eureka and Bozja are.

Yeah, a Discord server will eventually be a requirement to even run this fight about like BA and DRS. Tho I hate pf and hate how ppl treat others, I also hate it when content gets boiled down to "If you want to run it plz join a Discord server." I have so many Discord servers and honestly, I hate I have to join yet another one... I can't just log in and jump into a party, no I have to join a discord, sign up for some group, get invited or look for a PW for their PF, join their voice call, and etc...I get tired of all that. It was fun back when I did BA bc it first time I ever did something like that but now I had to do it for DRS, Crit Duns, and now CAR...Im just wish SQ would stop making this type of content or NA would learn some new ways to make parties.