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    Aside from the chasing AoE that can be unrecoverable and missing more than two towers, I don't see any "body check" mechanic.

    I don't think this fight needs a nerf. Mechanics are not hard at all, the only challenge is the number of player, even if they marketed this fight as "High end", I've seen a lot of unexperimented people on this fight, mainly because it is not locked behind something, because it's a 24 man raid, and people might thought "my mistake does not count because there is a lot of players that can make up mines". I think they should just lock this behind the extreme or something like that. Sprouts should not be on a "savage-like" fight

    Now the real enemy is the bonus time. This thing sucks. Aside from the ungodly timing, why am I not guarantee a drop? Why can someone get all 8 materias? THIS thing should get reworked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wawaya View Post
    Aside from the chasing AoE that can be unrecoverable and missing more than two towers, I don't see any "body check" mechanic.

    I don't think this fight needs a nerf. Mechanics are not hard at all, the only challenge is the number of player, even if they marketed this fight as "High end", I've seen a lot of unexperimented people on this fight, mainly because it is not locked behind something, because it's a 24 man raid, and people might thought "my mistake does not count because there is a lot of players that can make up mines". I think they should just lock this behind the extreme or something like that. Sprouts should not be on a "savage-like" fight

    Now the real enemy is the bonus time. This thing sucks. Aside from the ungodly timing, why am I not guarantee a drop? Why can someone get all 8 materias? THIS thing should get reworked
    Locking it behind current Extreme will go against part of what they said they wanted to do, though. Ignoring how they fully intended this to be an Extreme level encounter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Locking it behind current Extreme will go against part of what they said they wanted to do, though. Ignoring how they fully intended this to be an Extreme level encounter.
    It was the initial thought. But they back down and marketed it as a "First floor - Second floor savage raid". In this scenario, I think clearing extremes as a requirement should be reasonable, as we're not in the "extreme difficulty" territory anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wawaya View Post
    It was the initial thought. But they back down and marketed it as a "First floor - Second floor savage raid". In this scenario, I think clearing extremes as a requirement should be reasonable, as we're not in the "extreme difficulty" territory anymore
    Why? Extreme isn't a requirement for savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCheez View Post
    Why? Extreme isn't a requirement for savage.
    It is not, but it already discourage players from attempting these fights as it is classified as "Savage", so they might think it is already too hard for them (Even if there are unexperimented players on the first floor. But First floor is already a wall for players that can't go any further).
    I think the Chaotic raid was very underestimated by people because it is new, it is a 24-man content, and it was pretty unclear of the level difficulty aside from being said in interviews, so now a lot of people complains about newcomers who have never attempted any high end duties before, that's why I think locking this content behind extremes or something else would have prevented this case. But it is only my opinion, and it might be wrong!
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    Four things that i would nerf/change, since they are the most frustrating things about this fight.

    Doom:
    Increase the timer of doom from 4 to 8 seconds before you die, gives healers a bit more time to dispell.

    Platforms:
    increase the time before a platform breaks from two people from 1 to 3 seconds, so you can actually react to people doing a wrong move.

    Tower Damage:
    Reduce the raid wide damage from failed tower stacks by 30-50%

    Resurrection spots:

    If someone dies make their body spawn at the correct side where their party is.

    Group A West
    Group B North(?).
    Group C East.

    (I have over 80 kills on this fight.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arohk View Post
    Four things that i would nerf/change, since they are the most frustrating things about this fight.

    Doom:
    Increase the timer of doom from 4 to 8 seconds before you die, gives healers a bit more time to dispell.

    Platforms:
    increase the time before a platform breaks from two people from 1 to 3 seconds, so you can actually react to people doing a wrong move.

    Tower Damage:
    Reduce the raid wide damage from failed tower stacks by 30-50%

    Resurrection spots:

    If someone dies make their body spawn at the correct side where their party is.

    Group A West
    Group B North(?).
    Group C East.

    (I have over 80 kills on this fight.)
    well doom can be avoided but I get what you mean yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    well doom can be avoided but I get what you mean yes
    you can avoid your own doom, but when someone is aspleep and hits some people you can not.
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