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Thread: Nerf Chaotic

  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    well doom can be avoided but I get what you mean yes
    you can avoid your own doom, but when someone is aspleep and hits some people you can not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    what skill? you mean memory right? because skills come with real mechanic that actually phase one have not phase two
    I'm pretty sure that being focused, being able to memorize things etc can all be considered as "skills" that are needed to clear different fights
    if people get hit by every doom, its a skill issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I'm pretty sure that being focused, being able to memorize things etc can all be considered as "skills" that are needed to clear different fights
    if people get hit by every doom, its a skill issue
    I 50/50 agree because to me the first phase of chaotic doesn't only use memories but also some real mechanic like the doom mech is the most mechanical thing we have in the game. I feel like the games "mech" are just memories games and that's what sadden me to me the first phase of chaotic is so good compared to phase 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I 50/50 agree because to me the first phase of chaotic doesn't only use memories but also some real mechanic like the doom mech is the most mechanical thing we have in the game. I feel like the games "mech" are just memories games and that's what sadden me to me the first phase of chaotic is so good compared to phase 2
    Phase 1 is fantastic. It's when we have adds that things get crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Phase 1 is fantastic. It's when we have adds that things get crazy
    to me it's the transition from phase one to phase two if to much people are dead just wipe because you gonna fail no matter what
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    I'm pretty sure that being focused, being able to memorize things etc can all be considered as "skills" that are needed to clear different fights
    if people get hit by every doom, its a skill issue
    Also a design issue. I got hit by at least 15 or 20 dooms caused directly by the fact that mechanics that have that small a window of opportunity to solve it will occasionally and randomly get completely devoured by lag and the game's garbage netcode. Wait for timer, hear the telegraph of the mechanic snapshotting, walk out well before seeing it. Oops, all doom!

    There's a reason I think EW and DT fight design is trash, and a big part of it is that the mechanics cannot be this fast without completely breaking the game for people on less than 100% rock solid low ping connections. It's worse in my position, since my internet fluctuates on both sides. Sometimes it's extremely stable and I can see why fights like M5S are so fun. Other times I notice a quarter to half second lag on when a mechanic actually telegraphs and when the musical sting said it should telegraph. Doubly so on mechanics that are supposed to be synced that just aren't.

    But I suppose it is a skill issue if I don't live next to the servers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SongOfTheWind View Post
    Where do you get sprouts in lvl 100 content…
    I mean there are returners and then there are people that level jump. The former aren't really sprouts but some people regard them as such.

    On another note, I am kind of surprised they didn't nerf it as well. I wanted to go farm it for gear but finding groups is a pain.
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