Quote Originally Posted by AllenThyl View Post
The question is more, what are YOU even here for? Judging by your words, you don't raid, so why are you talking about the raiding culture as if you actually know what's going on? Or are suffering from it? You don't have to jump into the fray and fight for non-existent people just to make yourself feel better.
Everyone is free to make their own parties. If a party says "we are doing plan A", then the people who join should then follow plan A. If someone doesn't want to do plan A, don't join that particular party. The same goes for prog point. Being honest about one's own progression and skill doesn't get anyone in trouble. What does cause friction, is people joining a kill party, but failing repeatedly on mechanics in phase 2. That's what "prog lying" means. That's what "entitlement" looks like. And that's precisely what this encounter has exposed of the community.
i fully agree with that, the community is what makes this fight hard and unbearable,
Sad to say... prog lying only gives benefits and never gets punished enough,
prog lying will give you further insight on the run... meaning you can learn faster and past your point at the expense of honest people's time..
yet those who are honest and join practice parties get absolutely overwhelmed with wipe after wipe after wipe... and even those people have literally said to me... "idc anymore... i just want to clear" and they too join kill parties..
this raid Truly exposed the community for how it is when playing together, a driving dumpster fire heading towards a cliff edge.

i think the devs will need to actually head on address this, and figure out a way to ... prevent this, personally unsure what to do.. but i take it devs are experts on the community and gaming so they can figure something out right?
i fear for the next choatic... it will probably be a kick fest like FRU in PF xD