Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
Let's be honest. If someone told you, with no context, that a piece of content was cleared with over 20 deaths and 71 damage downs, would your first thought be that it's an encounter that could be considered only for hardcore raiders?
I would ask the same question about the circumstances of the deaths.
But you are right. I wouldn't think it was content only for hardcore raiders same as I don't think chaotic is only for them.
I purely think chaotic in it's form now is too punishing for what it wants to be.

This sounds like EX. However, there are people saying that even this is too much commitment since it requires looking at guides.
Like I said. Ex has a huge scale in it's difficulty.