The Choatic Alliance Raid, has only two mechanics which keep it from being midcore

[Cesarion]

The current chaotic raid is difficult due to the body check's it has. It only takes one or two players among 24 to wipe the entire raid. That is due two mechanics in my opinion:

1. The Towers on the platforms left and right
2. The Chasing Aoe after Looming Chaos

On the platforms the towers almost never get properly soaked, due to the mechanics of the add or an improper swap. It's so bad that using tank LB on the second set of towers has become an unspoken rule.

This however could be changed by just reworking the mechanic to not spawn any towers on the platforms, or limiting it to one tower on the platforms with it needing 5 people to be soaked instead of 6 with two towers.

As for the chasing aoe's they should be completely removed or also limited to two only. The reason for this is again the potential for it to wipe the party due to the mistake of one player. If played incorrectly it very often goes to the platforms and wipes the WHOLE other group there.

On a personal note, I have to say I absolutely detest this content. Finding a group capable of clearing it takes an eternity. I've been playing this game for eight years now, starting in Heavensward. I've cleared savage fights, progressed through ultimates, and even reached Crystal rank in Crystal Conflict, but I’ve never had as many toxic interactions with other players as I have in this chaotic raid.

I’ve had players rally the entire alliance against me for mechanics I didn’t even mess up. Someone once told me I needed to be "studied" after I failed a mechanic because I was disoriented from being revived. I’ve seen people hurling outright insults at each other as if they were playing League of Legends or a hero shooter. Once I’ve gotten everything I need from this raid, I will never step foot in it again—not even to help my own static clear it.

[Valence]

I understand why they added towers to threaten the raid, but bodycheking with them is bad. Instead I'd probably have introduced bleed debuffs instead of pure damage, the stronger the more towers missing. That way you can still try and heal through it, but it will take its toll on the raid.

[Muja]

The chasers are so unforgiving, I've had a wipe were I've gotten a chaser so I immediately started running only for the person with a chaser in front of me to hesitated for a second-- die to their chaser then I have 2 chasers hitting me from both sides I immediately die and now there are 2 rogue chasers to take out half the alliance

[TemporalFruitsAndVeggies]

I have to say I absolutely detest this content.

Once I’ve gotten everything I need from this raid...

Do people even listen to the way they talk about their relationship with this game? What are you doing to yourself? You have a finite amount of time on Earth.

[Jeeqbit]

Tank LB seems a good idea actually.

[Lauwen]

I’ve had players rally the entire alliance against me for mechanics I didn’t even mess up. Someone once told me I needed to be "studied" after I failed a mechanic because I was disoriented from being revived. I’ve seen people hurling outright insults at each other as if they were playing League of Legends or a hero shooter. Once I’ve gotten everything I need from this raid, I will never step foot in it again—not even to help my own static clear it.

I will admit, having played since 1.0 and seeing a lot of moods over content, this chaotic raid has really brought out some extreme negativity - on levels I've not seen before. As for never doing it again, well, as time goes on it'll get better, much like every other fight in the game, we're only 5 days in on this one.

[Infindox]

I will admit, having played since 1.0 and seeing a lot of moods over content, this chaotic raid has really brought out some extreme negativity - on levels I've not seen before. As for never doing it again, well, as time goes on it'll get better, much like every other fight in the game, we're only 5 days in on this one.

It came out at a really bizzare time when most people aren't even playing the game (holidays/New Year's) during a patch that barely has any content in it, with a rewards system that's weird and doesn't really help the content patch lull in the first place, and wasn't the type of difficulty some people wanted. It's kinda a "the straw that broke the camel's back" situation for some people; it was just yet another miss on top of all the other misses the game has had lately in both Endwalker patches and Dawntrail in general.

[BigCheez]

It came out at a really bizzare time when most people aren't even playing the game (holidays/New Year's) during a patch that barely has any content in it, with a rewards system that's weird and doesn't really help the content patch lull in the first place, and wasn't the type of difficulty some people wanted. It's kinda a "the straw that broke the camel's back" situation for some people; it was just yet another miss on top of all the other misses the game has had lately in both Endwalker patches and Dawntrail in general.

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210#1m

The holidays don't have much to do with the fact that no one is playing the game at the minute. There were only 5% fewer players on the 23-25th than the surrounding days. It's just a continuation of the same downwards trend that we've seen since Dawntrail released.

[Kuroka]

It sucks, it sucks really hard because it could be and surely CAN be very amazing.

But first off its only a 24 ppl trial (so why again couldnt we get that with proto ultima as well?) and lacks everything that makes a raid a raid. It should have checkpoints - IE the clould doing an dps check/mechanic mid fight and we switch arena. Not to make it much easier, more so we dont loose the whole fight if someone messes up.

Also doing body checks in 24 ppl stuff is mean - we wiped so many times cause one party messed up and i just cant accept that, its beyond my influence what the others do. It sucked on Cid or Ozma back then and it does now.


I havent done the whole thing yet, but mechanic for mechanic as far as we saw its not that bad.

Personally i hate its randomness... id prefer if it had some more cohesive pattern IE it does a wind combo, a death one and so on. For example like its cleave-wind-stacks-cleave-stored wind-spread-cleave-wind OR cleave-death-spread-cleave-stored death-cleave-stack-death.
-Sure its randomness is one way to make it harder and usually im glad but most times you end up having several times the same combo (like she did the large beams 6x IN ROW when there were too many dead ppl to survive it) or does death for 5-6 pulls and then suddenly only wind, which just wont let me get into the flow of the fight as any ex trial would do... but thats me lol


And the gear again... its cool but most caster stuff is glamour only for me as its stats suck. 730 is nice and all but... why? next patch we get 740+, its again pointless gear, too late.

[ArchlordPie]

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210#1m

The holidays don't have much to do with the fact that no one is playing the game at the minute. There were only 5% fewer players on the 23-25th than the surrounding days. It's just a continuation of the same downwards trend that we've seen since Dawntrail released.

Alternate theory: the only people still playing this game are people who really have nothing better to do. Including spending the holidays doing IRL things.