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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    Because we are PAYING THEM and aren't getting what we were promised.
    I still kinda remember how Yoshi-P advertised this expansion to have all kinds of content, things that people have asked for in the past. Deep Dungeons, Field Operations, a new "Ishgardian Restoration" kinda deal. The fact that most of it will be released over a year after the expansion launch is absolutely miffing. The entirety of 7.1 looks very barebones, and 7.2 seems to be far away on the horizon at the moment.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibitIncarne View Post
    Because we are PAYING THEM and aren't getting what we were promised.
    Entitled much?

    You're paying for access. You're paying for a license to play.

    Nothing about that transaction suggests any paying player gets to make demands about direction of game content.
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  3. #33
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    I know tons of people that hated Bozja specifically because the bulk of the content was locked behind hours and hours of FATE grinding.
    The raids were good, but almost everyone I play with didn't do them because they didn't want to do all the grind that came before it.
    Pretty much this. I don't know many people that disliked the raids (CLL/DR/Dalriada) and in fact most people seem to hold those into high praise if just for the creativity behind, but the fate grind? I don't know about that. Even the CEs seem to be pretty divisive in the playerbase.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Entitled much?

    You're paying for access. You're paying for a license to play.

    Nothing about that transaction suggests any paying player gets to make demands about direction of game content.
    We are paying a monthly fee for access, that is true.

    However, we also paid the full cost of the expansion itself, which is supposed to come with certain features. It is entirely okay to ask the developers when the promised features become available. We paid for a product, we are entitled to get that product. This is how it works.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

  5. #35
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Entitled much?

    You're paying for access. You're paying for a license to play.

    Nothing about that transaction suggests any paying player gets to make demands about direction of game content.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    We are paying a monthly fee for access, that is true.

    However, we also paid the full cost of the expansion itself, which is supposed to come with certain features. It is entirely okay to ask the developers when the promised features become available. We paid for a product, we are entitled to get that product. This is how it works.
    Except you're getting the answers and then complaining because it isn't "everything is available immediately all at once in 7.0". Also, remember the enormous credit sequence after you finished the 7.0 MSQ (someone said it lasts about 40 minutes?)? All those people is what the "cost of the expansion" paid for.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except you're getting the answers and then complaining because it isn't "everything is available immediately all at once in 7.0". Also, remember the enormous credit sequence after you finished the 7.0 MSQ (someone said it lasts about 40 minutes?)? All those people is what the "cost of the expansion" paid for.
    You would get a bit critical too though if you paid for a sports club membership every month, and your trainer has had you mostly benched for the past twelve months? They keep promising that some good stuff is coming for the next twelve, and there probably really is, but you'd feel pretty much strung along -- and you can't quite unsub until there is something for you to do or they'll empty out your locker that you totally customized at some expense. (Sorry for that last part of the metaphor, had to get the house demolishing thing keeping people from unsubbing in there somewhere)
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Except you're getting the answers and then complaining because it isn't "everything is available immediately all at once in 7.0". Also, remember the enormous credit sequence after you finished the 7.0 MSQ (someone said it lasts about 40 minutes?)? All those people is what the "cost of the expansion" paid for.
    You are missing the point. Its not complaining about not having everything all at once, its complaining that the schedule of content releasing makes little to no sense when considering shelf life of the content.
    Also, everything that Eyrilona said.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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