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  1. #371
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    That and some tweaks to damage enemies to to players and enemy health pools as far as I know. Still no where close to 2x the work.

    And if the guy I originally was responding to is saying that would be good for savage, then no, it'd literally do nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    That wasn't twice the work at all. That was literally just making a wipe reset the duty instead of the current boss.
    Criterion and criterion savage were pretty much the same content with the numbers cranked up and a few extra flags enabled for savage but it did also come with variant, which will have been a lot of extra work but allowed casuals to get some value out of the content.
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    I’m already seeing threads about what some players want for the next chaotic.
    Please. No more. Let this be the first and last chaotic.
    We need more casual midcore content not more stuff for professional influencers. Heck even some of them hate this.
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  4. #374
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    Having got a few clears now I'm going to remain a dissenting voice here, I want another chaotic raid, I don't know if I necessarily want it to be quite as hard as phase two of this one has been but the biggest problem I have with chaotic is the people who join parties past their prog point. If you are at the start of phase two but there are no p2 prog PFs, make your own, don't join a clear PF and people won't get angry with you.
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  5. #375
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    I don't care as long as I can unsync it later when it's easier and we skip 50% of the mechanics. If they keep it like they have with varients and the like, it just gets compartmentalized into dead content for me. Like Ultimates, etc. Just stuff I will never be able to do, so I remove the want from my brain. Like owning a yacht or something.

    The second it's removed from the Duty Finder it's dead content to me. No amount of incentive is going to make me join a PF group for it. I'm not dealing with that toxic hardcore endgame BS.
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    Last edited by Ardeth; 01-19-2025 at 01:01 AM.

  6. #376
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    wow

    People realize you can't release any kind of challenge nor difficult content in FFXIV because you made the base game a snore visual nove fest when it's impossible to even die even if everyone goes full afk in a regular dungeon/duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    wow

    People realize you can't release any kind of challenge nor difficult content in FFXIV because you made the base game a snore visual nove fest when it's impossible to even die even if everyone goes full afk in a regular dungeon/duty.
    What game are you playing?
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  8. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    wow

    People realize you can't release any kind of challenge nor difficult content in FFXIV because you made the base game a snore visual nove fest when it's impossible to even die even if everyone goes full afk in a regular dungeon/duty.
    Hyperbole thy name is thee.

    Everyone has different reasons. I hate gaming culture. I hate the notion of carrying and pulling weight, etc. The vast majority of players don't care that this got released. But let's be real they didn't make this content for them.

    For me, if I want to play a hard game, I play a single-player game. My issue with this game and online gaming in general is this constant need to look at everyone under a microscope. So much of any game is solved. Metas form. So much of the fun of discovery is snuffed out hour 1 of the content getting released. So much of it becomes x player getting mad at the team for being in last place in PvP. That's the kind of stuff that makes me unsubscribe. That's the kind of stuff that makes me not even want to attempt it. I'm sorry, but I want my gaming sessions to be chill. I want to unwind after a long day and not babysit these problem players. I'm not here for it. At the end of the day, it's all fake data. The only thing real about it is the feelings. And most groups on that spectrum give me IBS.
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    "You haven't proven that it is safe, you've (only) proved that you can't figure out how it's dangerous."

  9. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sad-Panda View Post
    I’m already seeing threads about what some players want for the next chaotic.
    Please. No more. Let this be the first and last chaotic.
    We need more casual midcore content not more stuff for professional influencers. Heck even some of them hate this.
    Let me speak for probably most replies you'll get to this, ahem, "skill issue git good."

    Real talk, I agree. The Chaotic was supposed to be an Alliance raid, not a 24 person Savage trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Hyperbole thy name is thee.

    Everyone has different reasons. I hate gaming culture. I hate the notion of carrying and pulling weight, etc. The vast majority of players don't care that this got released. But let's be real they didn't make this content for them.

    For me, if I want to play a hard game, I play a single-player game. My issue with this game and online gaming in general is this constant need to look at everyone under a microscope. So much of any game is solved. Metas form. So much of the fun of discovery is snuffed out hour 1 of the content getting released. So much of it becomes x player getting mad at the team for being in last place in PvP. That's the kind of stuff that makes me unsubscribe. That's the kind of stuff that makes me not even want to attempt it. I'm sorry, but I want my gaming sessions to be chill. I want to unwind after a long day and not babysit these problem players. I'm not here for it. At the end of the day, it's all fake data. The only thing real about it is the feelings. And most groups on that spectrum give me IBS.
    Quit.

    I mean this with all empathy. You are not only playing the wrong game, you are playing the wrong genre, and the wrong format. You have a deeply unhealthy relationship with this game, because you don't properly manage your expectation. It's clear your lack of basic social skills is causing you immense amount of distress. You want your "gaming sessions to be chill", if the basic interaction with this game doesn't provide that, you are playing the wrong game. This is first and foremost, a combat action game, and an MMO on top of that. You join a PvP mode, which is a competitive mode, and become distressed that people in there are actually competitive. You join a duty finder group and become distressed, because others don't want to do all the work while you idle around pressing flowers.

    Just unsubscribe. If you don't want to play this game the way it is in the first place, then you shouldn't play it, for your own sake. Don't give money to a company for a product you fundamentally don't enjoy.
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