Don't do chaotic raid again

[Infindox]

I’d be much more welcoming to the ‘chaotic raid’ if it actually appeared alongside some kind of substantive casual content that wasn’t literally ‘allied tribe quests take 3456’ lol. Maybe they could’ve released it later?

Do the devs honestly think FFXIV is some kind of hardcore raider community that’s queuing up on a national [Western] holiday* to do the newest raid? ‘Sorry family I can’t see you all this year I have to fight Cloud of Darkness but harder this time’ lol.

Who is this content even for? Don’t savage raiders have all their BiS by now anyway? (I genuinely don’t know lol). And casual players probably aren’t interested in BiS anyway, especially in a game like ffxiv where horizontal gear optimisation offers minuscule overall performance increases at best.

*And before anyone comes at me I am well aware Christmas isn’t celebrated to nearly the same extent in JP as it is in the west and thus it’s not as big a deal over there for release dates etc.

While true (along with what supersnow said), this is a worldwide game that there's hundreds of thousands of people that play in countries where traveling for the Christmas/New Year's season is common to the point that only some people even bothered to log on to try it. When I'm seeing low amounts of PFs ON AETHER it was a bad idea from the start.
But yeah I wouldn't be so annoyed if there was literally any other content except something I do in 5-10 mins weekly (the custom delivery).

[Connor]

While true (along with what supersnow said), this is a worldwide game that there's hundreds of thousands of people that play in countries where traveling for the Christmas/New Year's season is common to the point that only some people even bothered to log on to try it. When I'm seeing low amounts of PFs ON AETHER it was a bad idea from the start.
But yeah I wouldn't be so annoyed if there was literally any other content except something I do in 5-10 mins weekly (the custom delivery).

Yeah, I wasn’t aware of what Supersnow said about how Christmas Eve is probably even more significant there than Christmas Day. Which just raises even more questions lol.

And yeah I was thinking that as well when I was writing. Like, I know they don’t celebrate it the same way we do, but surely they know the significance the holiday has to many people that makes them specifically less likely to log onto an online game that day. But I didn’t know if that was just me being too Eurocentric-minded lol.

Also agree with the PF experience. I’ve been looking out for it on PF since I was like ‘maybe there’s a ton of people actually doing it?’. Yeah, no lol. Not in my purely anecdotal experience based on a sample size of like 3 lol. I guess it’s maybe more an FC activity than PF?

[Derio]

I wonder does this take away from 24 man content in the new exploration zone style content. I like the idea of Chaotic raid. But I would much prefer more dynamic mechanics to the 24 man. Not everyone standing on a platform doing a first fight of a savage fight mechanics.

[Infindox]

Yeah, I wasn’t aware of what Supersnow said about how Christmas Eve is probably even more significant there than Christmas Day. Which just raises even more questions lol.

And yeah I was thinking that as well when I was writing. Like, I know they don’t celebrate it the same way we do, but surely they know the significance the holiday has to many people that makes them specifically less likely to log onto an online game that day. But I didn’t know if that was just me being too Eurocentric-minded lol.

Also agree with the PF experience. I’ve been looking out for it on PF since I was like ‘maybe there’s a ton of people actually doing it?’. Yeah, no lol. Not in my purely anecdotal experience based on a sample size of like 3 lol. I guess it’s maybe more an FC activity than PF?

I was trying to think both North American and European minded before I posted that lol.
Also this feels like content that if you don't have a static or big FC, the only way you will get people to help is if you're well known. They always post videos saying how easy it is to do content, but in my experience if you're not asking around on achievement discords (which were also very thin with asking people to run the raid as well), then you're going to have a hard time on PF. All they had to do was make the raid in a way that it was puggable...

[Infindox]

My only issue is the hairstyle...the mounts are fine to be in content like this but a hairstyle? If this content has to have gear, 2 mounts, a minion, and a hairstyle just to keep it alive then it shouldn't been made in the first place IMO. The mounts, gear and even the minion should be enough reward for this type of content. My only issue is the hairstyle.

I'll agree on the hairstyle, feels like their idea to put the desirable glamour weapons from the contest in maps. (Instead of pvp, but that's going off topic). Everything else makes sense.

[Hyperia]

Oh, this is totally going to direction of Criterion Dungeons. No one will be doing this in four months.

I give it one month and you will have a hard time finding a PF that is not behind a discord server.

[BigCheez]

I give it one month and you will have a hard time finding a PF that is not behind a discord server.

It will probably be a much better experience via those Discord servers than it would through PF though.

[Infindox]

It will probably be a much better experience via those Discord servers than it would through PF though.

This leads to the fact there should not be content that forces you on Discord to clear it, and should only be for people who need to use it to communicate with their party in statics for Savage/Ultimate raids. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that.

[Toutatis]

This leads to the fact there should not be content that forces you on Discord to clear it, and should only be for people who need to use it to communicate with their party in statics for Savage/Ultimate raids. But I know not everyone agrees with me on that.

Sadly, when you join a pf group in this game, people will very often just stay silent, put markers down to form LP, partners and such and then start pulling. If the group wipes, they pull again and again leaving no time to explain anything in between pulls, leading to the same mistakes being made over and over until people start leaving (there is no point to stay in such conditions…the only option is to find a better group and it’s the pf waiting game with the risk of finding another similar group). Some mistakes would be easy to fix with a minimum of communication and progress would be faster.

[AyumiCosplayGlam]

I honestly cannot wait until we have this very same discussion but the other way around, when BIS gear will be locked behind cosmic exploration or whatever the hell it was.
Oh it will be glorious.

(probably wont happen but you all gotta admit it would be funny as hell)

Also, didn YoshiP told us, that discord is technically a 3rd party program? And people straight up making it a requirement for runs and advertising it on the forums? D:

On a serious note tho, genuinely believe that this content will be dead by mid january at best. Such wasted dev time.