Don't do chaotic raid again

[Supersnow845]

Oh I hope not. This was so stupid if they did.
Badly executed for a start. (Savage difficulty to get right, where you can be carried while it incentivises you to reclear and get better.. that would have been great! But not this where there is no room to carry and so people just abandon, or stick to their communities of ultimate raiders, and you barely get to practice after phase 1)

Secondly if you want to get people into savage... stop releasing it so quickly! Release MSQ. Allow people six weeks to do MSQ. Then release normal, allow peope to gear 1 job well and start gearing a nother (four weeks). Then release savage and allow people to gear jobs so that they can join as either as a 2nd choice if their friends and communities already have their first choice filled.

My god you've go so little content for casual players, and from day 0 your releasing savage because you just have to keep high end happy.
There is just no way into savage with friends, unless you no life, or are doing shady stuff for gil to buy your crafted gear.

1) you can craft your own gear, it isn’t hard and doesn’t take that long to gear up one class
2) Gil is worthless in this game, run your daily’s need or greed on everything and sell the seal products and you can basically pay for crafted gear alone let alone the 1049591060295&1$ other methods of obtaining Gil

Excessive savage release over casual content is fair enough but delaying savage for near two months to allow someone who plays 1 hour per month to gear up is just pointless and further renders the crafters useless

[Gurgeh]

1) you can craft your own gear, it isn’t hard and doesn’t take that long to gear up one class
2) Gil is worthless in this game, run your daily’s need or greed on everything and sell the seal products and you can basically pay for crafted gear alone let alone the 1049591060295&1$ other methods of obtaining Gil

Excessive savage release over casual content is fair enough but delaying savage for near two months to allow someone who plays 1 hour per month to gear up is just pointless and further renders the crafters useless

Yes it does. It takes me ages to level crafting. I still haven't finished levelling crafting now. And gathering and wasting materials while you work out a recipie that doesn't break and fail. It takes so long , and for me... its just sooo boring. I just cant do it. Custom deliveries is all the tie I want to spend on crafting. As for gil, I don't know what your doing but I', break even on gil. I don't RP I'm not spending it on glams. About all I'm spending it on is food for Exs actually.
Crafted gear just isn't an option. Unless again, you want to delay so I can get that levelled. I don't enjoy levelling crafting unless I can spread it out a bit here and there. And I don't have the gil.

unless... crafted gear lasts a 'whole' expansion... that I can afford... maybe it does... let me see... nope I cant work it out it looks like there is only one. But I dont see how that can be the case.

(Oh and I had two weeks of from release where I basically did nothing but DT. I'm not playing 1 hour a week)

[Lilapop]

1) you can craft your own gear, it isn’t hard and doesn’t take that long to gear up one class
2) Gil is worthless in this game, run your daily’s need or greed on everything and sell the seal products and you can basically pay for crafted gear alone let alone the 1049591060295&1$ other methods of obtaining Gil

Excessive savage release over casual content is fair enough but delaying savage for near two months to allow someone who plays 1 hour per month to gear up is just pointless and further renders the crafters useless

You lost me at "Excessive savage release over casual content is fair enough." How is this fair enough? Who is this fair for?

[Azurarok]

My guess is that they designed that to push non raider to try to raid

This has been my take for a while now. They keep making hard (as in, one person messing up noticeably punishes the entire raid, if not outright wipes it) content while leaving lasting midcore battle content otherwise in a drought (EW straight up didn't have one of those). I think a lot of the sanding down of jobs they've been doing were attempts to make people try them too. Why spend resources on making content not many people'd actually play?

[Mortex]

I would say the fight isn’t even that hard a lot of mechs are pretty forgiving (not the tower) but you have ages for the middle pvp area before you need to reset the platform. And it’s only 2 phases like after the pvp/smash bros mechanics it’s a repeat and then enrage. Yeah phase 2 is pretty much mechanics but after that it’s done and nothing more new. Hardest part is the people in middle not murdering each other

[Gurgeh]

Yeah don't do it again.
Not until you add some other more accessible content again first. Don't spend my sub on more content for the top 5%, ultimate players. If ultimate players want it they are gonna have to pay for it without my help.

This was so much fun to begin with in Duty Finder . People were chatting, communicating, trying to work stuff out. Hopping out and re-recruiting. Having lots of fun.

After just 2 days. EU light DF is dead.
There are no beginner PFs.
Lots of 'completion' PFs, and phase 3 and stuff.
The PFs I've joined have a totally different vibe. No one is communicating, they don't even say "hi" mostly, and its just mass abandons after four pulls, and unlike with DF you can't just re-recruit.
The PFs iare getting kind of toxic. "KNOW YOUR STUFF" all caps. "NO MEMES" all caps. "CONSISTENT PLAYERS ONLY" all caps. These people do not sound like they are having fun.

I'd guess this works 'great' in JP, where I gather they have a better DF culture for high end content?
But its just no fun in EU where is PF 'by Joining my PF if you meet my Terms and conditions'
Too much raidplaner. We go from content that needs no raid planner, to a raid planner thats like 18 slides just for a third of the fight?

In my book this was easy to fix.
No rewards for premade parties of 24. If you want rewards they are only eligible to DF queued instances, which you can join in party's max 8 if you want. And if that then made it too hard to clear, then they needed to make the fight easier.
Rewards just for joining DutyFinders that don't clear but stick the 50 minutes.

I've cleared Ex1, Ex2, Ex3, I missed the boat on Savage which was basically out before I'd even done normal. There is nothing for me to do. Sub runs out tomorrow.

[Asari5]

i like it and i would like to get it again.... but.... its neither what i wanted nor can they just create unlimited content. so it may be better to make something else.

[Connor]

I’d be much more welcoming to the ‘chaotic raid’ if it actually appeared alongside some kind of substantive casual content that wasn’t literally ‘allied tribe quests take 3456’ lol. Maybe they could’ve released it later?

Do the devs honestly think FFXIV is some kind of hardcore raider community that’s queuing up on a national [Western] holiday* to do the newest raid? ‘Sorry family I can’t see you all this year I have to fight Cloud of Darkness but harder this time’ lol.

Who is this content even for? Don’t savage raiders have all their BiS by now anyway? (I genuinely don’t know lol). And casual players probably aren’t interested in BiS anyway, especially in a game like ffxiv where horizontal gear optimisation offers minuscule overall performance increases at best.

*And before anyone comes at me I am well aware Christmas isn’t celebrated to nearly the same extent in JP as it is in the west and thus it’s not as big a deal over there for release dates etc.

[Supersnow845]

I’d be much more welcoming to the ‘chaotic raid’ if it actually appeared alongside some kind of substantive casual content that wasn’t literally ‘allied tribe quests take 3456’ lol. Maybe they could’ve released it later?

Do the devs honestly think FFXIV is some kind of hardcore raider community that’s queuing up on a national [Western] holiday* to do the newest raid? ‘Sorry family I can’t see you all this year I have to fight Cloud of Darkness but harder this time’ lol.

Who is this content even for? Don’t savage raiders have all their BiS by now anyway? (I genuinely don’t know lol). And casual players probably aren’t interested in BiS anyway, especially in a game like ffxiv where horizontal gear optimisation offers minuscule overall performance increases at best.

*And before anyone comes at me I am well aware Christmas isn’t celebrated to nearly the same extent in JP as it is in the west and thus it’s not as big a deal over there for release dates etc.

Hilariously Christmas Eve is arguably a worse release date from a JP centric perspective because while JP doesn’t celebrate Christmas as strongly as the west they do celebrate Christmas Eve very much as it’s considered a romantic holiday similar to Valentine’s Day

If they were deciding where to stick it purely based on JP’s celebration habits they likely would have stuck it on Christmas Day itself as it’s less important, it just so happens Eve was a Tuesday this year and we only ever get updates on a Tuesday

[CNitsah]

Hilariously Christmas Eve is arguably a worse release date from a JP centric perspective because while JP doesn’t celebrate Christmas as strongly as the west they do celebrate Christmas Eve very much as it’s considered a romantic holiday similar to Valentine’s Day

If they were deciding where to stick it purely based on JP’s celebration habits they likely would have stuck it on Christmas Day itself as it’s less important, it just so happens Eve was a Tuesday this year and we only ever get updates on a Tuesday

We all know mmo players don't have romantic partners, thus this is a non problem.