Are we getting a chaotic raid for every raid tier?

[Hypnotic13371337]

for MS 5-8 and MS 9-12 are we getting a chaotic 24 man to go along with each of them?

Just had a thought what with the CR offering savage ilvl stuff... whats gonna happen when the next set is gonna come out?

Think they are just trying it for this one time to see if this is some side content they can release along side raiding in the future, or just have it be a one and done kind of thing, or even maybe higher ilvl variations of the gear that unlock once the next wings come out?

[Jeeqbit]

They were very clear that this scheduling for it isn't necessarily permanent. They are just trying it out as a concept and may or may not continue it.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Well, let's hope it goes well and they see promise in it! I for one would love getting a Chaotic Ivalice Raid around Ultima or T.G. Cid

[Avoidy]

Well, let's hope it goes well and they see promise in it! I for one would love getting a Chaotic Ivalice Raid around Ultima or T.G. Cid

I'm surprised they didn't start with Ivalice. It's definitely got popularity backing it.
Instead they went and grabbed an already recycled boss (remember eden?) from crystal tower of all places -- an alliance raid series people get dragged into so much that they've abandoned the roulette altogether.

[Kaurhz]

I wouldn't think they would do it for every raid tier. It's just a concept. We may very well get another as part of the exploratory zone, but it's content that is relatively difficult to organize for when compared to 4-man or 8-man content, which is why they probably won't elect to make it a consistent part of the patch schedule.

[Reimmi]

I hope so, odds are it'll be a more lenient version of savage raiding where a few people dead doesn't = a wipe guaranteed like savage/ex/ultimates with much more unique mechanics

[Jeeqbit]

It is relatively forgiving. But people doing it do need to know the mechanics, even if a few of them mess up occasionally.

For example, messing up might mean a bleed, a damage down, a bit more damage on party stacks, or a death+rez or Esuna. But if this happens to a lot of people, it's gonna slowly crumble the alliance away.

So provided you actually know the mechanics and mostly do them, if you just make a mistake here and there it's alright, but you can't really have the whole alliance in there being clueless (which is quite evident in blind prog parties).

[Voidmage]

It is relatively forgiving. But people doing it do need to know the mechanics, even if a few of them mess up occasionally.

For example, messing up might mean a bleed, a damage down, a bit more damage on party stacks, or a death+rez or Esuna. But if this happens to a lot of people, it's gonna slowly crumble the alliance away.

So provided you actually know the mechanics and mostly do them, if you just make a mistake here and there it's alright, but you can't really have the whole alliance in there being clueless (which is quite evident in blind prog parties).

Honestly there is way too much doom as punishment in the fight.
I don't know if it's different in phase 2 onwards but imo a single mistake like reacting a second to late to the hand mechanic shouldn't result in an instant death, especially not in content that was originally planned as Ex difficulty.
The twice comes ruin mechanic would have been far better here.
The fight also has way, waaaay too much running around too often. It is annoying on BLM and often you have to run around to the opposite side of the arena.

Honestly I like the idea of the fight in itself and the mechanics are quite fun actually but it is too punishing for what it should be and with that difficulty it will definitely end as yet another discord run crap or at max devolve into the typical "Hector guide, braindead strat" nutcase which destroyed the savage raiding scene for me.
Even now on the first day the blind prog parties get less and less after Mr. happy cleared and Raidplans start to pop up everywhere. There are also starting to appear ilvl 730 only groups amd that is just crap for all of us who actually took a break from the game and are below it because of that.
I don't want to be punished by this because I actually did what other people and the producer said. This is becoming "be bis or get lost" all over again.

They have overtuned the difficulty a bit imo.
It's cool for the high tier raiders to have yet another content for them but after over difficult criterion and braindead alliance raids in EW I am honestly starting to finally lose the last bit of fun and hope I had.

[Daralii]

There are also starting to appear ilvl 730 only groups amd that is just crap for all of us who actually took a break from the game and are below it because of that.

Which makes it feel like a failure already. The drops are structured the way they are because they wanted it to in part be a catchup fight, with 730 being seen as a starting point for 7.2. If you need to be at 730 to be accepted into a group for a fight that drops 730 gear, that element of it is as pointless as it is predictable.

[TaleraRistain]

Honestly there is way too much doom as punishment in the fight.
I don't know if it's different in phase 2 onwards but imo a single mistake like reacting a second to late to the hand mechanic shouldn't result in an instant death, especially not in content that was originally planned as Ex difficulty.
The twice comes ruin mechanic would have been far better here.

Definitely agree there. They could have benefited from a twice come ruin so Doom on multiple party members doesn't spell disaster so quickly.