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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    You do realize that, if SE add more DPS spell on healer it will be like Picto and VPR : still one button spam ^^ (well, maybe two )
    Interestingly enough, I don't realize that, because I've never found myself just spamming 1 or2 buttons on Picto, however perhaps you play yours very differently. On Viper, I wouldn't know the details however I doubt that it's anywhere as simplified as healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Interestingly enough, I don't realize that, because I've never found myself just spamming 1 or2 buttons on Picto, however perhaps you play yours very differently. On Viper, I wouldn't know the details however I doubt that it's anywhere as simplified as healers.
    You totally missed the point and the joke tone... But i will make more clearer for you : All the DPS Spell will be added on only one or two button like how picto and VPR work with they base skills.

    So, in the end, you still spam mainly one button.... because, seriously, SE don't care about Healer so they will take the lazy way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeFatale View Post
    As an astrologian main.. no thanks, no more buttons, if I wanted to DPS I'd be a DPS.
    That's fine, you can sit there and spam 1 button if you like. Just don't remove that choice from everyone else.

    The excuse of "I don't want to, I DoN't DPS BeCauSe I'm a HeaLer, well, also a healer main. As the old expression goes- if you can walk and chew gum at the same time - it's possible to decide whether to heal or DPS - including if a card is needed, especially with how they've been simplified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    That's fine, you can sit there and spam 1 button if you like. Just don't remove that choice from everyone else.

    The excuse of "I don't want to, I DoN't DPS BeCauSe I'm a HeaLer, well, also a healer main. As the old expression goes- if you can walk and chew gum at the same time - it's possible to decide whether to heal or DPS - including if a card is needed, especially with how they've been simplified.
    Just as much as you don't speak for everyone else.

    If you're pressing 1 button as an Astrologian then I promise you are doing something wrong, so might I suggest learning to play the class properly?
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by FemmeFatale View Post
    Just as much as you don't speak for everyone else.

    If you're pressing 1 button as an Astrologian then I promise you are doing something wrong, so might I suggest learning to play the class properly?
    That’s obviously a figure of speech

    The minute to minute gameplay of healers is one button spam

    Don’t “acshooly its about 5 buttons” when you know exactly they mean minute to minute
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Player FemmeFatale's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    That’s obviously a figure of speech

    The minute to minute gameplay of healers is one button spam

    Don’t “acshooly its about 5 buttons” when you know exactly they mean minute to minute
    The problem isn't healers have ''1 button'' because they don't, that's factually wrong, the problem lies within every other class being able to self sustain. Healers don't need more damage; other classes need less self sustain so we have more reason to heal.

    It's not a case of 'healers boring, they need to dps' .. No, I want to heal, I'm a healer, I enjoy healing. I don't enjoy every other class having a heal, raise, heal over time, shield, and so on. Every other class has a skill that diminishes a healers soul purpose, and that should be removed.

    I will vehemontly disagree with anyone who thinks healers need more buttons for healers ala 'dps' to make it interesting, because I want to heal, that's the role I picked, healer. I'm not against doing DPS but it's not my main priority.
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    They could just up the primitive game mechanics so healers could actually have a real job but that’s not possible because at the end of the day it’s a PlayStation game.
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    PCT’s aetherhue combo is on 4 buttons (though could be condensed to 3) is anyone gonna argue that literally porting it 1 to 1 (not saying they should just a thought experiment) wouldn’t be a massive improvement for literally any of the healers

    Like the aetherhue combo is actually good, the fact that it’s condensed doesn’t change the fact that it flows well and fells impactful
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Jade Harley
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    I think we use phoenix downs so rarely we forget where they come from: p-downs are only available via like 2 quests and deep dungeon.
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    Omg they actually did it
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