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  1. #31
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jangles View Post
    Yeah, sure as shit was better than whatever we are getting now. Them reducing the number of dungeons per patch didn't increase the quality of the single one we now get, I'd even argue to say dungeons were more interesting in general before they dropped the number. Dungeons are more than the bosses in them, which admittedly are getting a bit better in dawntrail but only in dawntrail, way back in shadowbringers when they first dropped it to 1 dungeon or in endwalker the bosses were snoozefests too. The dungeons themselves are still 2 pulls and a boss every single damn time with nothing else going on, they don't even mix up the amount of pulls you do between bosses.

    Mt. Gulg and Paglthan are the only two dungeons I can think of where they deviated from the norm and they genuinely are pretty damn good.
    Dungeons have been on a decline for over a decade at this point (Even prior in ARR, they weren't always good, a handful were, but just as many others were slop), and they weren't making reference to picking quality dungeons over quantity dungeons, but rather just that they felt curbing the dungeons from 3 per patch to just 1 would allow them to focus on other content. Now before this gets sidetracked to "What content" - They have released content, it just hasn't been as replayable as it should have been, e.g., Variant/Criterion/Duels/CE/Fully-flushed out DoH/L relics/IR/Resplendents, for example, all of which deviated outside of the content scope from ARR/SB (Where exploratory was just FATEs rebranded as NMs). Any drab changes in design that has occurred on dungeons have literally been as a result of how the majority of people actually interacted with dungeons. Because let's face it even before they decided to rework EXP, you certainly weren't bothering to do optional rooms in Haukke Manor, or Sunken Temple for example. If people treated them like corridor simulators (Which they did) then they are going to give you just that.

    Yes, there are problems with the game, and I am just going to simply disagree when people think it is because we have 1 dungeon instead of 3, or because we got 1 Hildibrand quest instead of 2 on an occasion for example. You voice your opinion, I voice mine, that's all there is to it.

    Edit: Like I said to someone else, given the choice between a second ARR, and a second ShB, I am picking ShB 99% of the time, and the other 1% just comes from the fact I miss how you could gear crafters and gatherers back then.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 12-18-2024 at 04:44 PM.

  2. #32
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    Celica Yascaret
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    not a fan of hildy but yes its not great its another piece of content slashed to almost nothing
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  3. #33
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    Midi Ajihri
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    Stormblood they did the same thing where the first patch back it only had 1 quest but patches after that had 2.

    While disappointing, it's not like it's suddenly something new.
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  4. #34
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    Hildibrand quests were great before Endwalker. They've been rehashing entire scenes and jokes since, with only a few moments of original and actually funny gags. Or new gags that overstay their welcome too much, too often. Can't wait for the 100th slow-mo gag! Haha it's funny because Godbert is ultra powerful, right?

    I loved the ARR and Stormblood questlines. For Endwalker it really looked like a jumped-the-shark movie sequel like experience. Haven't had the time to do the DT quest yet but I expect it to be on par with Endwalker.

    Edit: Just read that they were going to be done with Hildibrand after Stormblood but fans convinced them to continue... CS3 only listens to fan outcry for the stupidest things it seems. No wonder new Hildibrand feels like a bad movie sequel.
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    Last edited by ReynTime; 12-18-2024 at 10:51 PM.

  5. #35
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by yesnt View Post
    I loved the quest, but yeah... where is the rest? What am I supposed to do until the next patch?
    I really don’t think that’s going to be the only quest… it seemed like a starting quest, and Nashu is standing there in S9 waiting, so I think there will be more throughout DT patches. But yeah I feel you, I wish they had just put the whole quest line in at once, with such a long wait between patches.
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  6. #36
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    7.2 will be only 3 normal raids/savage fights.
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  7. #37
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    Blackmage Vivi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I doubt it. It was just a thing they probably did once, like making Ivalice required for Bozja, or CT required for MSQ.

    The relic area will be Shades' Triangle, so I'm sure it'll be related to that this time.
    you have to remember the relic quests are done in pairs aka arr and heavenswards was roughly the same menial tasks then stormblood and shadowbringers was exploration content and endwalkers was manderville so the chance of them doing again isn't completely out of the picture.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashidon View Post
    you have to remember the relic quests are done in pairs aka arr and heavenswards was roughly the same menial tasks then stormblood and shadowbringers was exploration content and endwalkers was manderville so the chance of them doing again isn't completely out of the picture.
    They have specifically said it will be tied to Shades' Triangle and vaguely implied it'd be more like ShB. We don't have specifics obviously but they've been consistently hinting they are working on content that "takes time" and they are obviously referring to the Field Operation and associated relics.
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    In other news, there is no technical debt from 1.0.
    "We don't have ... a technological issue that was carried over from 1.0, because ARR was meant to kind of discard what we had from 1.0 and rebuild it from the engine."
    https://youtu.be/ge32wNPaJKk?t=560

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    Want to know why new content will never last more than 20 minutes? Full breakdown:

  9. #39
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    I saw this post the other day and assumed "well if they cut it down to one quest, they probably just lengthened the quest overall."

    Nope. It was extremely short.

    Jokes were good, got good laughs out of me but it just ends so quickly. What's the plan here with this content? Why make it so short?

    Really hope this game can manage to turn around the direction it's heading in. DT has been nothing but countless let downs aside from the battle content.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    They have specifically said it will be tied to Shades' Triangle and vaguely implied it'd be more like ShB. We don't have specifics obviously but they've been consistently hinting they are working on content that "takes time" and they are obviously referring to the Field Operation and associated relics.
    do you have the interview that says its attached to it? the only two things said about shaded triangle has been its going to be the combined goods things of both eureka and bozja whatever SE believes is the good of both and hinted ff5 jobs related to the content also.
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