Please nerf overpowered Jobs before Chaotic Raid

[ForsakenRoe]

What is the problem, and what exactly do you propose the solution?

The problem is 'PCT can paint in downtime, to 'bank' damage for later to an extent that no other job can come close to'

A solution is to remove 200 potency from each Muse, Mog and Madeen, and create a new 900p OGCD that is used after Star Prism, call it Prismatic Starburst or something. This keeps the overall damage of the job relatively the same as it currently is, but shifts a massive amount of power out of one of the paintings we paint in downtime. It is still higher potency (by an absurd margin) to paint in uptime with this change, versus the next best potency-per-second choice (using a Subtractive Combo), and even moreso when you consider the average from 'generating and then spending a Subtractive combo'

(Every 480s is the 'lowest common denominator' between the 120s CD of Starry and the 160s of the MuseMogMadeen loop.
160s x 3 is 480, so we get 3 loops to every 4 Starry uses. 200p x 3 x 6 (number of MuseMogMadeens in the loop) is 3600p.
3600p, divided by the 4 Starry windows we get in the same timeframe, gives the new OGCD a potency of 900p)

[brinn12]

PCT is ahead of the next best dps (DRG) by 2k rDPS (32.7k vs 30.7k, a difference of 6%).
AST is ahead of the next best healer (WHM) by 1k rDPS (17.6k vs 16.6k, also a difference of 6%)

We should also nerf AST, it's way too OP compared to other jobs in its category for FRU, clearly, yet no one is talking about that. Curious.

AST also offers far more raid buffs and has more shields than WHM, its direct competitor, a common complaint we see used against PCT. Surely we care this much about AST domination too, right?

It's weird that you mention people not joining these fights, and yet you don't seem to understand something so simple.

AST is 2 to 3x more played than WHM. PCT is 10x+ more played than BLM and SMN combined. 2k is still bigger than 1k. Boss HP is fix. It doesn't scale. Of course PCT's situation is going to be more evident. DPS is still the most important metric in recent Ultimate fights. You make a good case for healer buffs, though.

[TomsYoungerBro]

PCT is ahead of the next best dps (DRG) by 2k rDPS (32.7k vs 30.7k, a difference of 6%).
AST is ahead of the next best healer (WHM) by 1k rDPS (17.6k vs 16.6k, also a difference of 6%)

We should also nerf AST, it's way too OP compared to other jobs in its category for FRU, clearly, yet no one is talking about that. Curious.

AST also offers far more raid buffs and has more shields than WHM, its direct competitor, a common complaint we see used against PCT. Surely we care this much about AST domination too, right?

AST vs WHM arguments are concerned actually about healing tools, not DPS. Comparing a greedy job (WHM) to a buff job (AST) using rdps is misleading. Your comparison of PCT to DRG is more meaningful as both have a buff, though I don't remember picto being a melee?

The real concern is that PCT (a buff job) is top of the ADPS leaderboard. Ahead of 2nd best (SAM) by almost 1k DPS. The job just needs straight potency nerfs.

[Daralii]

AST vs WHM arguments are concerned actually about healing tools, not DPS. Comparing a greedy job (WHM) to a buff job (AST) using rdps is misleading. Your comparison of PCT to DRG is more meaningful as both have a buff, though I don't remember picto being a melee?

The real concern is that PCT (a buff job) is top of the ADPS leaderboard. Ahead of 2nd best (SAM) by almost 1k DPS. The job just needs straight potency nerfs.

They couldn't decide if PCT should be a selfish DPS, a utility DPS, or a mobile DPS, so they made it all 3.

[TomsYoungerBro]

They couldn't decide if PCT should be a selfish DPS, a utility DPS, or a mobile DPS, so they made it all 3.

The only thing its missing is a rez. They might as well stick with the bit and just give them one in 7.2 (I'm not serious Yoshi P).

[Altera]

The thing is from what I've heard, PCT was weaker during the press event when Influencers was invited to interviews and test play. Then when Dawntrail launched they launches PCT buffer several hundred of potency. They should just revert PCT back to those numbers imo. It's just breaking raid content at this point :/

I've never been this close to permanently hang up my BLM rod and shut down my SE account just like I did with my BattleNet account when blizzard launched MOP and I made FFXIV my main mmo back in 2011, 1.0 :/

[Menriq]

The thing is from what I've heard, PCT was weaker during the press event when Influencers was invited to interviews and test play. Then when Dawntrail launched they launches PCT buffer several hundred of potency. They should just revert PCT back to those numbers imo. It's just breaking raid content at this point :/

I've never been this close to permanently hang up my BLM rod and shut down my SE account just like I did with my BattleNet account when blizzard launched MOP and I made FFXIV my main mmo back in 2011, 1.0 :/

Legitimately curious. Why does what one job do have anything to do with your enjoyment? Let's say they did nerf PCT. How would that change anything you are doing as BLM?

[Nasigno]

The thing is from what I've heard, PCT was weaker during the press event when Influencers was invited to interviews and test play. Then when Dawntrail launched they launches PCT buffer several hundred of potency. They should just revert PCT back to those numbers imo. It's just breaking raid content at this point :/

I've never been this close to permanently hang up my BLM rod and shut down my SE account just like I did with my BattleNet account when blizzard launched MOP and I made FFXIV my main mmo back in 2011, 1.0 :/

And it failed to do what they intended when it was in test play. Directly compete with BLM.

"Because they have a number of actions with long cast times, and no means of reviving others in combat, we intended for them to have comparable DPS to melee jobs alongside Black Mage" - Square Enix 7.05 Patch Notes.

Regardless of how they designed it, or how it is now. The point of the job was to basically give options, so either way you were going to be likely competing with whatever version of PCT they made. It was going to happen eventually, as it has with Melee, and other jobs being given something to compete for the spot. And no matter what patch or change they do, it will remain comparable so, what you expect BLM to remain on top? Good luck cause they've made their point, even if they TOTALLY redesign it, you'll still be at best comparable to a PCT damage.

[Sunhwapark]

I've never been this close to permanently hang up my BLM rod

I would advise that you should only do that if you're unhappy with how BLM's current playstyle is.
Though, I do understand your concern - particularly if it leads to general pf parties/etc locking other casters out specifically to seek PCT, sort of like when people would lock spots in Stormblood thanks to those striking/blunt/piercing debuffs.

[Altera]

I would advise that you should only do that if you're unhappy with how BLM's current playstyle is.
Though, I do understand your concern - particularly if it leads to general pf parties/etc locking other casters out specifically to seek PCT, sort of like when people would lock spots in Stormblood thanks to those striking/blunt/piercing debuffs.

I'm happy enough with how BLM plays. I'm however not happy that PFs are locking caster spot only for PCT. I looked at PF today, and of the 30ish various content, i saw 13 groups with the PCT only symbol. That's way more than I saw in Stormblood when the Buffer Jobs like drg, nin, mnk, smn, bed META locked SAM and BLM out. The worst offender back then, was seeing a Susano Ex farm excluding BLM. Even seen the same thing for EX3 mount farm groups. PCT Exclusive spot.
At this point give BLM
Stygian Spikes from 1.0. Puts a barrier around party members, causing enemy striking players to take thunder damage
Blizzard 4/Freeze - Causes Brittle effect on target and take x% more damage
BloodRite from 1.0 - BLM spills it's own blood in a ritual that enhances party Speed and Damage.
If pure selfish Jobs are too hard to balance, give everyone something that buffs party in some way or another