Please nerf overpowered Jobs before Chaotic Raid

[IOwn92FCHouses]

I'm happy enough with how BLM plays. I'm however not happy that PFs are locking caster spot only for PCT. I looked at PF today, and of the 30ish various content, i saw 13 groups with the PCT only symbol. That's way more than I saw in Stormblood when the Buffer Jobs like drg, nin, mnk, smn, bed META locked SAM and BLM out. The worst offender back then, was seeing a Susano Ex farm excluding BLM. Even seen the same thing for EX3 mount farm groups. PCT Exclusive spot.
At this point give BLM
Stygian Spikes from 1.0. Puts a barrier around party members, causing enemy striking players to take thunder damage
Blizzard 4/Freeze - Causes Brittle effect on target and take x% more damage
BloodRite from 1.0 - BLM spills it's own blood in a ritual that enhances party Speed and Damage.
If pure selfish Jobs are too hard to balance, give everyone something that buffs party in some way or another

You people need to stop dooming about the lockout thing. Thanks to NAUR, I can see every FRU party in NA and what they need + have locked out.

Of all the parties currently recruiting a caster spot, 2 of them have it locked to Picto only. Several have an open spot for any other caster when they already have a picto, and several comps are running double caster in pf. There are roughly 40 total at this current moment.

But you saw 13 groups locked to Picto only? I'm interested to know when, because the current data, as of this moment, says you're exaggerating.

For the record, I did Black Mage in stormblood. I was kicked out of a single O4S party. Once. The entire expansion. I otherwise had no issues. What's the opposite of rose tinted glasses?

[Sarantserel]

Just went to take a look at Aether PF and granted we're not in prime time, but the only duty where a spot was locked to PCT were FRU PFs. Just as egregious to me was that most of those PFs also locked the flex spot to just melees or locked MCH out. Savage parties, Unreal parties, extreme farm, even old ultimates, none of them had PCT locks.

To me that shows that while PCT is definitely an outlier in FRU, it's just the same old meta obsessed mentally some PFers have, like when some PFs in Abyssoss locked out RDM and MCH from PF long after the DPS check in P8S p1 had been nerfed and since EW till now, PF locks in double melee even though double caster is more viable than ever before.

And even then, PF clearly doesn't seem to be locking in PCT in every content because of its dominance in one fight. PCT in its current state is mostly in line with other jobs in most content, to the point that the average player does not care what caster joins their PF. So stating that Chaotic AR next week will be PFs locked to 2-4 PCT everywhere feels completely overblown and will most likely only happen if the fight is extremely downtime heavy.

[brinn12]

Just went to take a look at Aether PF and granted we're not in prime time, but the only duty where a spot was locked to PCT were FRU PFs. Just as egregious to me was that most of those PFs also locked the flex spot to just melees or locked MCH out. Savage parties, Unreal parties, extreme farm, even old ultimates, none of them had PCT locks.

To me that shows that while PCT is definitely an outlier in FRU, it's just the same old meta obsessed mentally some PFers have, like when some PFs in Abyssoss locked out RDM and MCH from PF long after the DPS check in P8S p1 had been nerfed and since EW till now, PF locks in double melee even though double caster is more viable than ever before.

And even then, PF clearly doesn't seem to be locking in PCT in every content because of its dominance in one fight. PCT in its current state is mostly in line with other jobs in most content, to the point that the average player does not care what caster joins their PF. So stating that Chaotic AR next week will be PFs locked to 2-4 PCT everywhere feels completely overblown and will most likely only happen if the fight is extremely downtime heavy.

It's not obsession by any means. The reason for people accepting RDM/SMN in Savage PFs was the lack of DPS checks. SE did this to protect themselves from the unbalanced mess that was the latest Savage tier. And the reason for not accepting casters and pranged as 4th DPS is that many people join in these conditions and are not willing to fake melee, or the execution is poor and you can tell they have issues with muscle memory.

[Lilapop]

People only dislike PCT because it does more DPS than BLM. If BLM was the broken one, nobody would have an issue. Thoughts?

[Tint]

People only dislike PCT because it does more DPS than BLM. If BLM was the broken one, nobody would have an issue. Thoughts?

The problem with BLM is that it is a risk reward job. You are always at risk of losing your AF / UI timer, losing Flare Star, losing Ley Lines uptime. These risks plus of course that BLM does not bring anything else than dps demands that it is always top dps. There needs to be a reward, not just the risk.

[Supersnow845]

The problem with BLM is that it is a risk reward job. You are always at risk of losing your AF / UI timer, losing Flare Star, losing Ley Lines uptime. These risks plus of course that BLM does not bring anything else than dps demands that it is always top dps. There needs to be a reward, not just the risk.

If a job demands itself as top DPS because of its design then it’s a badly designed job

Especially since FRU biases PCT

[Lilapop]

The reward is on par with top DPS. It's a heavy hitter, just not THE heavy hitter. It's a stereotypical mage. I for one am glad something else has the limelight for awhile, even if it is only in one niche bit of content.

[Collin_Sky]

Woah look at that.
Chaotic came out and it turns out RDM is the meta caster because raise is way more valuable than extra DPS.

I'm glad you people aren't in charge of balance decisions.

[Themarvin]

Woah look at that.
Chaotic came out and it turns out RDM is the meta caster because raise is way more valuable than extra DPS.

I'm glad you people aren't in charge of balance decisions.

In the first week perhaps, then it become "toxic elite".

Making excuses again.

[Lilapop]

Woah look at that.
Chaotic came out and it turns out RDM is the meta caster because raise is way more valuable than extra DPS.

I'm glad you people aren't in charge of balance decisions.

Inb4 PCT doomsayers blame us.