Please nerf overpowered Jobs before Chaotic Raid

[Collin_Sky]

PCT is ahead of the next best dps (DRG) by 2k rDPS (32.7k vs 30.7k, a difference of 6%).
AST is ahead of the next best healer (WHM) by 1k rDPS (17.6k vs 16.6k, also a difference of 6%)

We should also nerf AST, it's way too OP compared to other jobs in its category for FRU, clearly, yet no one is talking about that. Curious.

AST also offers far more raid buffs and has more shields than WHM, its direct competitor, a common complaint we see used against PCT. Surely we care this much about AST domination too, right?

[brinn12]

PCT is ahead of the next best dps (DRG) by 2k rDPS (32.7k vs 30.7k, a difference of 6%).
AST is ahead of the next best healer (WHM) by 1k rDPS (17.6k vs 16.6k, also a difference of 6%)

We should also nerf AST, it's way too OP compared to other jobs in its category for FRU, clearly, yet no one is talking about that. Curious.

AST also offers far more raid buffs and has more shields than WHM, its direct competitor, a common complaint we see used against PCT. Surely we care this much about AST domination too, right?

It's weird that you mention people not joining these fights, and yet you don't seem to understand something so simple.

AST is 2 to 3x more played than WHM. PCT is 10x+ more played than BLM and SMN combined. 2k is still bigger than 1k. Boss HP is fix. It doesn't scale. Of course PCT's situation is going to be more evident. DPS is still the most important metric in recent Ultimate fights. You make a good case for healer buffs, though.

[TomsYoungerBro]

PCT is ahead of the next best dps (DRG) by 2k rDPS (32.7k vs 30.7k, a difference of 6%).
AST is ahead of the next best healer (WHM) by 1k rDPS (17.6k vs 16.6k, also a difference of 6%)

We should also nerf AST, it's way too OP compared to other jobs in its category for FRU, clearly, yet no one is talking about that. Curious.

AST also offers far more raid buffs and has more shields than WHM, its direct competitor, a common complaint we see used against PCT. Surely we care this much about AST domination too, right?

AST vs WHM arguments are concerned actually about healing tools, not DPS. Comparing a greedy job (WHM) to a buff job (AST) using rdps is misleading. Your comparison of PCT to DRG is more meaningful as both have a buff, though I don't remember picto being a melee?

The real concern is that PCT (a buff job) is top of the ADPS leaderboard. Ahead of 2nd best (SAM) by almost 1k DPS. The job just needs straight potency nerfs.

[Daralii]

AST vs WHM arguments are concerned actually about healing tools, not DPS. Comparing a greedy job (WHM) to a buff job (AST) using rdps is misleading. Your comparison of PCT to DRG is more meaningful as both have a buff, though I don't remember picto being a melee?

The real concern is that PCT (a buff job) is top of the ADPS leaderboard. Ahead of 2nd best (SAM) by almost 1k DPS. The job just needs straight potency nerfs.

They couldn't decide if PCT should be a selfish DPS, a utility DPS, or a mobile DPS, so they made it all 3.

[TomsYoungerBro]

They couldn't decide if PCT should be a selfish DPS, a utility DPS, or a mobile DPS, so they made it all 3.

The only thing its missing is a rez. They might as well stick with the bit and just give them one in 7.2 (I'm not serious Yoshi P).

[Lyth]

PCT is the new sieve job. The development team are scared that if PCT gets nerfed, all those players will literally fall out of the game. What they don't realize is that catering to such players is much worse for the state of the game in the long run. Let them go back to SMN, they'll get over it.

[IOwn92FCHouses]

PCT is the new sieve job. The development team are scared that if PCT gets nerfed, all those players will literally fall out of the game. What they don't realize is that catering to such players is much worse for the state of the game in the long run. Let them go back to SMN, they'll get over it.

I see this from people like you so often. What slippery slope will we fall down if no changes happen? (Which there won't be because Square has demonstrated they don't know how to balance the game since the implementation of the 5% buff. Grats to everyone who have finally caught up)

Because I saw the same doomsday speak with the healer strike thread. 1k pages and no results. I saw the same doomsday speak with the story. Most people just play the game, vibing, and don't care about what the balance is like. Hell, the vast majority of players can't even play Picto right, making it's power non-existant.

So do tell. How will current state picto kill the game considering the above things haven't, and that the majority of the playerbase is unaware of the issue and/or apathetic?

[Collin_Sky]

So do tell. How will current state picto kill the game considering the above things haven't, and that the majority of the playerbase is unaware of the issue and/or apathetic?

It won't. Because 99% of the people complaining don't even enter the content PCT is a "problem" in.

[Lyth]

It's pretty simple, really.

The reason for adding new jobs is to give players more gameplay styles and aesthetics to choose from. Perhaps someone might play a tank if they had the right job fantasy available. Perhaps you could convince someone to try out melee if the right job existed. It helps attract and retain players. That's why they invest dev time into releasing new jobs each expansion.

When you have one job that completely dominates a role (and PCT most certainly does this) and is a lock to the slot, then those alternative jobs might as well not exist. Suddenly, players who would have played that role are forced to either swap to the dominant job, change roles, or if there's no role that they still want to play at that point, then they quit. And what happens at high levels of play filters down and influences perception at even the most casual levels of play (even if it shouldn't), because people talk. Why should you play a job that everyone around you perceives as unilaterally weaker? Balance drives perception, which drives job distributions, which drives retention.

That's why balance matters.

[IOwn92FCHouses]

It won't. Because 99% of the people complaining don't even enter the content PCT is a "problem" in.

Correct. People too often forget, me included, that our circles here on the official forums, on reddit, discord, whatever app or social media you go through, are a tiny portion of the community. Wanna know what's happening in Limsa right now? Tank Program is still crashing on Ultros. The weeb police are hopping to random servers. And the players are just chatting and chilling. Doing roulettes. Posing with their glam.

Picto isn't on their list of topics today, not because they don't care or don't have the game's health in mind. But because it's unimportant to them. These are the most common types of players. They log in, so whatever, log off, and ffxiv ceases to be a thing in their world.

Picto is 100% an issue in FRU, and in ultis in general, due to its unique interaction with downtime. It's only a real issue in savage if you look exclusively at x:30 kill times (and, if you don't know what that's significant, do some research into what burst does to your parse). But to go so far as to say it's killing the game? Laughable. As always, a PF locking a job out is a red flag. Picto makes the DPS checks trivial in FRU, but, you know what? My group still has to hold DPS in P1 and we have the option of holding CDs in phase 2 with a non Picto, SMN as the caster comp. FRU's DPS check is already non-existent.

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I've yet to be locked out of my Savage PF clears as Black Mage or SMN. Ive yet to be kicked from an extreme farm for not using picto when I'm caster. I've yet to experience anything negative in relation to roulettes for my job choices. The only lockouts I've seen are in FRU, which, again, is a red flag and not universal.

I'd agree with your assessment if it was reality, but it is not. You're still allowed to pick up a staff or a book or a rapier and do content. The only limiting factors your defeatist attitude.

The average player is unaware that there is a balance issue in ultimates. The average player does not do the research necessary into their jobs to find a balance issue or a hard preference based on performance.

This is a theme park mmo. Most people are here for vibes. A single job in a single role doing more than it should isn't hitting those vibes for most people. And, going off of play rates in casual content, swinging a silly paint hammer is a good vibe.