Thread: 7.15 Patch Notes - PvP

Originally Posted by Cidel

Same for Primal. Well, not "nobody" but the draw-in is three times more reactable to now to the point of you can purify or shield on-reaction as the DRK's salted animation begins, making the old tactic not nearly as effective for randos. This is probably the most varied FL matches have been in a while.

On Aether I've been in multiple matches not only with no DRKs, but also with no tanks at all. SE sure has some novel ideas about balance.

Originally Posted by Mawlzy

On Aether I've been in multiple matches not only with no DRKs, but also with no tanks at all. SE sure has some novel ideas about balance.

It's almost like the balance of the jobs isn't taking Frontlines into account.
EDIT: Let's hope whatever role actions they are cooking up are actually going to help.

Originally Posted by Aidorouge

Eh, the MCH "buff" won't really make much of a difference when we're still one of the most impacted jobs from the hit detection changes/increased HP pools (still trying to get a KO with LB since 7.1) and have non-utility/nil-survival compared to the rest of the ranged jobs that can hit harder, do more, and live long enough to do it.

Hell, the increased amount of other ranged jobs showing up has rendered two of our skills defunct, with one of those skills throttling our Tool rotation, or how everyone and their dog can do Guard pierce now so MCH doesn't even have that going for it anymore, Drill's damage be damned.

To clarify, on my earlier post, I meant wildfire being the reduced action from 5 to 4. Full Metal Field being the new action that generally follows up the combo. It's likely why they nerfed our Marksmans spite. Though not many I've seen, pop guard in time to stop it.
This patch felt like an overhaul of the heavy/displacement actions on a large scale and I can understand. I guess the only thing to do is use bioblaster and save analysis for Air Anchor on the follow up attack since that provides a stun instead of bind and keep your Scattergun on hand for your get-away tactic.

The changes to Shield Oath do not feel good. While I fell in love with PLD for the unique playstyle of having to balance your defensives for your teammates vs yourself in Guardian, and therefor want to be able to use it as often as possible, I can understand why they've made that change. My own survivability has felt pretty hampered by the tweak to Shield Oath, though, which ultimately is a lot more frustrating.

Paladin seem strong on paper, until you hit the diamond/crystal queue and cover targets at 0MP that do not want to use elixir to be full again. And with no chat available, you can't tell them either.
Quality of player would probably rise if they are allowed to talk with each other...Just warn and ban them if they are too toxic...But with the current playerbase, I don't think that would even be a thing.

Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

Paladin seem strong on paper, until you hit the diamond/crystal queue and cover targets at 0MP that do not want to use elixir to be full again. And with no chat available, you can't tell them either.
Quality of player would probably rise if they are allowed to talk with each other...Just warn and ban them if they are too toxic...But with the current playerbase, I don't think that would even be a thing.

A lot of issues could be fixed with proper moderation. I have next to no trust in the current system they have due Season 2 having an obvious wintrader and it took them 2 weeks with reports from 30+ people to actually take an action. So many games ruined and the perperator only got a slap on wrist with their points removed as they were back in queue (this time without their trader friend) in less than week.

That's super odd, I've rarely seen people not immediately pop elixirs when being covered past plat/diamond...

Originally Posted by Valence

That's super odd, I've rarely seen people not immediately pop elixirs when being covered past plat/diamond...

I guess if you queue midnight to early morning it is often PvP players who know what to do. Before that you get newbies that want to try how far they can get in their first season (Spoiler: Crystal). And then it becomes a game of "Why should I cover this player, I better save it for someone who uses elixir" and at that point knowledge about individual players becomes more important than skill. Fighting the matchmaking over skill. Absurdity.