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    ovIm's Avatar
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    Vim Mercer
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    Alpha
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Wuk's moments just felt unearned and forced. Along with her overpowering the entire story, many of us just had enough of her and that was a final straw.
    As much as I find the "Wuk Lamat Bad" discourse exhausting, these sentences ring the truest though. Because of the writing, Wuk was put as a centerpiece of almost every cutscene in the 7.0 MSQ. Of course that is not going to be seen positive by everyone at the end of the day.

    And as for that final bossfight... it was just insulting to the player. Sphene considers us the biggest danger (rightfully so), pushes out the other two so we can have a final epic clash, only to have to be saved by Wuk who was much weaker than us just moments ago to the point of being labelled "irrelevant" by Queen Eternal. That just felt bad.
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    So long, and thanks for all the fish.

    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Basteala's Avatar
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ovIm View Post
    As much as I find the "Wuk Lamat Bad" discourse exhausting, these sentences ring the truest though. Because of the writing, Wuk was put as a centerpiece of almost every cutscene in the 7.0 MSQ. Of course that is not going to be seen positive by everyone at the end of the day.

    And as for that final bossfight... it was just insulting to the player. Sphene considers us the biggest danger (rightfully so), pushes out the other two so we can have a final epic clash, only to have to be saved by Wuk who was much weaker than us just moments ago to the point of being labelled "irrelevant" by Queen Eternal. That just felt bad.
    I think one of the worst things about that scene isn't even Wuk Lamat's interference, but--ironically--how much it downplays the connection the player had with Wuk Lamat. Whether we like it or not, Wuk Lamat feels she has a strong familial bond with us after the Rite of Succession. And why not? We *did* help her turn from weak willed woman with bravado into someone (allegedly, the plot doesn't do the best job of it) with a strong will and courage to match, with enough humility to ask for and accept help, all while supporting her onto the throne. There's a lot for her to feel that connection to us.

    But then...her and Sphene basically have one tour in Alexandria, and find out they have a few things in common over low poly grapes. The screen time they share together can probably be recorded in literal minutes, and you can count the quests on one hand.

    Yet somehow, somehow, this fosters such a strong programming that it can overcome Queen Eternal's programming. I don't necessarily hate the idea in an FF14 universe, but there was so little time for that bond to steep that the situation borders on lunacy. This would be like if we met Emet Selch properly only after returning to Eulmore, and then everything else happens the same way. The impact would just not be there.

    The new writing staff, more than anything, needs to learn the value of time.
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