Lockout Timer for Dungeon Quitters

[AllenThyl]

Being completely fair, if that happens, it usually is because they were in the book process, and it is very practical to save your Atma in the gearset so if you switch jobs you don't forget to reequip when you stumble on the right FATE, and they should have the right weapon with them as well, just going "Hey NIN I think you have the wrong weapon equipped" would solve all issues and not require you to leave, if they don't after that it's a whole other issue.

No need to be fair in that specific case. I didn't see it at first, but pulls were taking way too long, despite the aoe. Even when directly addressed, they didn't just switch to another weapon, but demanded we simply pull smaller. They had the whole Cryptlurker Aiming gear, just not the weapon. So average ilvl was high enough.

[Sacae]

So you just queued into a duty. 0 minutes into it, you're not having fun. Why did you queue for it then?

At the very least, the harsher punishments should apply if you don't at least wait for some pulls to occur first.

Maybe because I wasn't expecting to get Susano NM in Trial Roulette for the 5th time in a row and decided to eat the loss and leave. I can do that. God knows I dropped the old Toto Rak half a hundred times over seven years or so.

No, harsher punishments should not apply. You are not owed my time and effort.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I mean, sure, go ahead and implement that. It will NOT change anything for me should I wish to avoid certain duty: Crystal Tower ARs.

What do I do to avoid that?

1. Not queue at all, OR;
2. Make sure to leave AR roulette as the last thing I'll do before calling it a day or not deal with DF anymore. Get CT raid? Insta-bail.

Most of the time I stick to the 2nd option. Rewards and penalty be damned, they're not worth it if I'm literally falling asleep on my own gameplay. I realize OP mentioned about dungeon, but I'm sure others can certainly apply this to every other roulettes.

[hydralus]

Most of the time I stick to the 2nd option. Rewards and penalty be damned, they're not worth it if I'm literally falling asleep on my own gameplay.

No kidding. Getting any VPR duty below level 80 is an outright curse. You don't even get a third button to press until level 55 for crying out loud.

[tsuchii]

I'm sorry about your negative experience but 30 min queue lock is more than enough. It's not even that hard to backfill a missing role.

[Jeeqbit]

No, harsher punishments should not apply. You are not owed my time and effort.

They are not owed your time... unless you queue for a duty and commit said time. Because if you leave, you have wasted their time. As I explained earlier, 40 minutes of my time was wasted the day that happened to me.

a roulette is a roulette is a reason. If you can't or don't want to deal with a section of duties, then don't queue up for it.

Exactly this.

This is something you should get over because this happened, what, 8-9 years ago?

I am over it but it's important to remember and reflect on your experiences when trying to relate to, empathize and agree with people, as I am doing with the OP.

Firstly, most of the duties in this game can be done with an NPC party so getting stuck in the MSQ is less of an issue than ever.

Not for trials, and it'll be a long time before they get through the sidequest dungeons at this rate.

Second, it's not even prime time and I queued for the final steps of faith instantly AS A DPS

You're right. It's faster to queue for duties now in most cases, because the general population of the game was lower in Heavensward. Nevertheless, the argument that tank queues are instant is only true for roulettes and does not apply in the slightest for direct queues, and never has. Everyone just forgets this point because they are used to roulettes.

pulling up an example from almost a decade ago as a reason this should be implemented is stupid. Legitimately stupid.

I wouldn't have this issue now. You know why? Because I'm through the MSQ and the only duties I direct queue for are current content. But that isn't necessarily the case for new players, so the only way for me to relate is to remember when I was a new player.

[hydralus]

They are not owed your time... unless you queue for a duty and commit said time. Because if you leave, you have wasted their time. As I explained earlier, 40 minutes of my time was wasted the day that happened to me.
Exactly this.
I am over it but it's important to remember and reflect on your experiences when trying to relate to, empathize and agree with people, as I am doing with the OP.
Not for trials, and it'll be a long time before they get through the sidequest dungeons at this rate.
You're right. It's faster to queue for duties now in most cases, because the general population of the game was lower in Heavensward. Nevertheless, the argument that tank queues are instant is only true for roulettes and does not apply in the slightest for direct queues, and never has. Everyone just forgets this point because they are used to roulettes.
I wouldn't have this issue now. You know why? Because I'm through the MSQ and the only duties I direct queue for are current content. But that isn't necessarily the case for new players, so the only way for me to relate is to remember when I was a new player.

The fact you brought it up and want to punish people for a non-issue that happened 8 years ago means you're not over it. Get over it. The trial you're using as an example doesn't even exist in the game anymore. That's how dumb this is.

[Gaiinahat]

The point of a game is to have fun. If I'm not having fun, I can and will drop a duty. I'll accept the 30 minute timer, because that is an appropriate "punishment" for inconveniencing others. "You don't pay my sub" goes both ways; I can't force you to play the way I want, but you can't force me to run a dungeon with you either. That isn't fair to *me.*

You know that's the risk you're taking when you queue for roulette, yet you choose to queue for it anyway. Requiring you to take responsibility for your actions isn't 'not being fair'.
If you don't want to take the risk of it 'not being fun' then don't queue for roulette. Queue for 'fun' dungeons directly.

[EchoingPulse]

No. Absolutely not. Does it suck? Sure. I won't say people bouncing is anything but frustrating. Still, you are stuck in a party of people that insist on arguing with each other, doing petty things like not healing or using proper defensive cooldowns, to just standing in every AoE; that's not fun; it's a nightmare, and quitting a dungeon is 100% justified. No one should be harshly penalized for that.

This is simply one reason; there are many other reasons. Kids, Dinner, Family, Sickness, take your pick.

[LibitIncarne]

For those who roulette queue into a dungeon and then immediately quit because they don't want to do that dungeon, they should be locked out of roulettes until the reset next day. This should also apply to those who rage quit before the dungeon is completed.

This would not apply to those who get disconnected due to network issues, and when they do reconnect they must rejoin the dungeon they got disconnected from, and are barred from undergoing any other roulettes until either that dungeon completes, or they are voted out from the party.

It's ridiculous to waste people's time, especially those who have been in a queue for 30+ mins, only to leave the party stranded without a tank or healer. Abandoning a dungeon should be voted on by the entire party.

I think it's a fair penalty for those who want all the benefits of easy tomes and xp, but don't want to have to actually EARN the rewards, or think they're too good to party with the likes of "noobs". If you queue into the roulettes, you have to take what you're given. As they say, beggars can't be choosers.

Not locked out, but it should remove the rewards.