How not to be a mentor

[Yoshihara]

This entire thread highlights an unsolvable problem.

Let's sum up the events:
OP claims they were harassed by a mentor, with the intent to portray the mentor, even if not named, in a negative light.
Instance: Lvl 100 repeated casual content
Claim: "They were DPSing when they felt it was safe to do so, Mentor gave me a horrible experience by suggesting I wasn't"

Later on in thread:
Several players find evidence through illegal means that shouldn't be discussed or brought up publicly that the OP was lying, and has proof that they do in fact, do not press any DPS buttons whatsoever in lvl 100 content.
However this evidence despite being factual, should not be public knowledge

We are stuck with a dilemma here that consistently plagues the community:
Player comes on to forums to claim of a toxic experience that is a wild stretch of the truth and paints the community in a negative light, and lies about their account of what happened. In fact the OP has tagged this thread "mentor abuse".
We shouldn't have evidence that they lied, and the very fact that the evidence was brought up is toxic in itself, but it's there and it exists, and the fact that evidence exists exonerates the anonymous mentor and damns the OP, but the fact the evidence exists and we're checking it because some of us are so used to stories like these being a fabrication of the truth is damning in itself.

[Ath192]

This entire thread highlights an unsolvable problem.

Let's sum up the events:
OP claims they were harassed by a mentor, with the intent to portray the mentor, even if not named, in a negative light.
Instance: Lvl 100 repeated casual content
Claim: "They were DPSing when they felt it was safe to do so, Mentor gave me a horrible experience by suggesting I wasn't"

Later on in thread:
Several players find evidence through illegal means that shouldn't be discussed or brought up publicly that the OP was lying, and has proof that they do in fact, do not press any DPS buttons whatsoever in lvl 100 content.
However this evidence despite being factual, should not be public knowledge

We are stuck with a dilemma here that consistently plagues the community:
Player comes on to forums to claim of a toxic experience that is a wild stretch of the truth and paints the community in a negative light, and lies about their account of what happened. In fact the OP has tagged this thread "mentor abuse".
We shouldn't have evidence that they lied, and the very fact that the evidence was brought up is toxic in itself, but it's there and it exists, and the fact that evidence exists exonerates the anonymous mentor and damns the OP, but the fact the evidence exists and we're checking it because some of us are so used to stories like these being a fabrication of the truth is damning in itself.

Illegal doesn't mean evil. You cannot legalize morality. OP is in the wrong, the people who used illegal tools to find the truth is not damning or bad. Truth isn't bad. The moment people start believing this because it's illegal or whatever we are doomed as a society. It may be illegal, but morality wise the OP failed.

They made a false accusation towards a Mentor who by all visible evidence exposed here was correct to offer advice and help. Until evidence the mentor phrased this in an insulting or rude manner the truth we at least have, and know, was that he was genuinely trying to help.

[AllenThyl]

This entire thread highlights an unsolvable problem.

Let's sum up the events:
OP claims they were harassed by a mentor, with the intent to portray the mentor, even if not named, in a negative light.
Instance: Lvl 100 repeated casual content
Claim: "They were DPSing when they felt it was safe to do so, Mentor gave me a horrible experience by suggesting I wasn't"

Later on in thread:
Several players find evidence through illegal means that shouldn't be discussed or brought up publicly that the OP was lying, and has proof that they do in fact, do not press any DPS buttons whatsoever in lvl 100 content.
However this evidence despite being factual, should not be public knowledge

We are stuck with a dilemma here that consistently plagues the community:
Player comes on to forums to claim of a toxic experience that is a wild stretch of the truth and paints the community in a negative light, and lies about their account of what happened. In fact the OP has tagged this thread "mentor abuse".
We shouldn't have evidence that they lied, and the very fact that the evidence was brought up is toxic in itself, but it's there and it exists, and the fact that evidence exists exonerates the anonymous mentor and damns the OP, but the fact the evidence exists and we're checking it because some of us are so used to stories like these being a fabrication of the truth is damning in itself.

No, there is no unsolvable problem. What happened was that the OP was fundamentally dishonest. Even without the impressive (in the most negative sense imaginable) logs, the initial post and the follow up were all obviously dishonest to fit the OP's narrative. Notice how there are essentially no specifics actually describing what happened, only the already filtered evaluation of the mentor's behavior. When dealing with narcissists, this whole behavior is known as "the missing missing reasons". This whole "benefit of the doubt" was completely misplaced, because if the mentor in question had actually been rude, you can be sure that the OP would have listed the mentor's expression word for word. Probably even a screenshot of the conversation itself. But I suspect that the word "please" came up a bit more often than the OP would have liked, so here we are.