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    Excalibur
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    I do think this game is catering more to older adults with families than this genre used to, but from the stats I see plenty of people who are 18-23 play as well and from memory I used to meet families all the time back in the old days.

    I'd argue that MMOs used to flat out be unhealthy even for someone with unlimited time, because they'd go out of their way to consume all your time - even that which is used for eating and sleeping. Whether people were teenagers or married couples, they had to contend with games that didn't respect their time and try and cope with it.

    This game has lots of short bursts of 10-20 minute things (be they beast tribes, trials, raids), or that you can stop any time at regular intervals (like Field Ops or farm parties), to solve that problem. In isolation, of course this fact becomes an easy target for people to say "it's only 10 minutes of content" but obviously it's not seeing the forest through the trees because you can mix and match those 10 minute pieces of content together depending on time availability.
    Jeeq, sorry but this is another way of celebrating the developers giving you less. Yet you still pay the same amount of money for the game. I'm glad you see an upside to it, but games who had things to do that could consume all your time didn't HAVE to. That was people's decision if they wanted to let them affect it this way and be unhealthy. Video games literally exist to consume time. That is their sole reason of existence. That is what you pay for.

    And yet here we are, with a playerbase happy they are taking away gameplay. It's not respect, its charging the same for less to do.

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    I'll give you an example. Zodiac weapons were design to be so time consuming they would be special weapons you would only farm for your main job if you were a regular gamer. There were some sick people who decided to do all of them for an unknown reason, but that was their perrogative, at least there was stuff to do and the world was full of people doing it.

    Queue into manderville relics, where you didn't have to do anything out of the ordinary and could farm all of them in a week probably. That is trash, even the zodiac book grinds that people hated were more creative than this latest relic.

    The only thing you run into in the world today are gatherer bots.
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    Even as an adult with work I would rather have the option to do another zodiac style relic even if ultimately don't finish it because I don't have the time than get it handed to me. At that point what is the difference, it's just another generic weapon that was given like the ones I bought in the marketboard or tomestone vendors.

    At least I can admire other people who did go through the effort of acquiring the relics.

    This is how you destroy the value or relics or any item in game, by making it so mundane it may as well be throwaway gear like all the normal items. Why not just buy the MB weapon and stick with it at that point.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 12-12-2024 at 02:33 PM.