Why don't we have more DPS abilities ?

[Teno]

Sage probably has the best DPS gameplay of the healers... But at the same time, SCH is just the better designed Job purely because of Chain Stratagem and Energy Drain.

If they took all the spells and abilities of all the healers and put them onto one singular Job, you could end with one actually well designed Healer job... Though it might still need some boost to their attack's potency...

They all have the same gameplay anyway... If they were to mix it all in one, it'd end up similar to what scholar was back then (spell uptime management), because at the end of the day no healer has true identity right now, it's just the same but largely pruned from what it was.

[Qyoon]

Sage probably has the best DPS gameplay of the healers...

While being the healer with the less dps of them all wich is funny when you think about it.

[Carighan]

While being the healer with the less dps of them all wich is funny when you think about it.

Not really, it's not the size of your epeen that matters, it's how you use it. :P

[Reginald_Cain]

Tldr shadowbringers ruined everything. Despite being one of the best expansions it was one of the worst with jobs changes. There was a whole patch bard songs had no buffs and scholars energy drain didn't exist. Idk what they were smoking but scholar and healers as a whole got gutted and left on the curb to rot. Its also when they decided to lean into machinist being a tool based pure dps but also the weakest job in its role for 3 expansions.absolute cinema

[Reginald_Cain]

Also monk got nothing good that expansions and between 5.4 and 6.0 it was left feeling like a husk of a job

[Shurrikhan]

Also monk got nothing good that expansions and between 5.4 and 6.0 it was left feeling like a husk of a job

???

Blitz. We got Blitz. Which together with the faster-CD 3-step PB was the best thing we got since making TK usable as more than just an Execute/pre-cutscene skill and Greased Lightning therefore a real resource instead of a pre-fight tax in late Stormblood (then ruined by Shadowbringers, which then removed GL too after realizing they'd neutered any point of it existing).

Endwalker MNK was straight up better designed (thematic, distinct, smooth but interesting in practice, more capable of nuance except perhaps in its opener) than Shadowbringers (especially late Shadowbringers) Monk.

Endwalker Monk was fine. Dawntrail Monk was where things went increasingly dull and mismatched. (Well, that and maybe in the transition from late Stormblood to Shadowbringers.)

Edit: Misinterpreted "6.0" as Endwalker (as a whole), not just its launch. Yes, that gap was the worst.

[Supersnow845]

???

Blitz. We got Blitz. Which together with the faster-CD 3-step PB was the best thing we got since making TK usable as more than just an Execute/pre-cutscene skill and Greased Lightning therefore a real resource instead of a pre-fight tax in late Stormblood (then ruined by Shadowbringers, which then removed GL too after realizing they'd neutered any point of it existing).

Endwalker MNK was straight up better designed (thematic, distinct, smooth but interesting in practice, more capable of nuance except perhaps in its opener) than Shadowbringers (especially late Shadowbringers) Monk.

Endwalker Monk was fine. Dawntrail Monk was where things went increasingly dull and mismatched. (Well, that and maybe in the transition from late Stormblood to Shadowbringers.)

I believe he meant that weird window at the end of ShB where they deleted greased lightning but didn’t replace it with anything till the reworked it in 6.0, not 6.0 itself

[Shurrikhan]

I believe he meant that weird window at the end of ShB where they deleted greased lightning but didn’t replace it with anything till the reworked it in 6.0, not 6.0 itself

Yeah monk didnt get blitz TILL 6.0 hence it being the end of the husk period. I love blitz

Ahh, yep, sorry, I mistakenly imagined that as 6.x (6.0 to 6.55) instead of 6.0 in particular. My bad.

[Reginald_Cain]

Ahh, yep, sorry, I mistakenly imagined that as 6.x (6.0 to 6.55) instead of 6.0 in particular. My bad.

It's cool being on the forums gets me wound up till i miss little details too. We're all wols but also human. Fr tho I like current monk a lot. Its not my favorite melee but it's always been one I like experimenting with in exploration content like bozja

[Reginald_Cain]

Yeah monk didnt get blitz TILL 6.0 hence it being the end of the husk period. I love blitz