Starlight Celebration 2024

[Mr_Gyactus]

Isn't this counterintuitive to what Yoshi P. boasts about the game not having FOMO? Isn't it counteractive to what Yoshi P. says about telling you to go play other games and unsub?(not even going into housing) Isn't the holiday stuff being what our sub dollars apparently go to in terms of "constant updates", and isn't this the excuse that Yoshi P. gives when questioned where our sub dollars go and what constant content is being developed?

If you can't in good faith answer yes to any of these then your answers are BS because you can't have it both ways. And ngl its super annoying when people stoke the game like it can do no wrong when they are literally double dipping on selling us low effort content and subsidizing the costs on previous subs. If you can't see that and the reason why it's upsetting to people then maybe you need to touch grass.

First: what I answer in good faith or not depends only on me. Don't play with me with syllogisms, because I studied Aristotle enough to avoid this kind of traps.

Yoshida said "don't stress yourself too much about a game", with an implicit reference to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori .
Unfortunately hikikomori are A LOT in Japan, they are increasing and they are increasing outside of Japan too (USA and Europe).
MMORPGs bring together many types of people, and some need help, sometime a little push is enough.
So no, what Yoshida said is unrelated to what a subscription should or should not give.

That said, I understand your point of view, when in 2015 SE removed the previous items I had similar ideas about it, and I certainly don't like opening my wallet every time I lose a furniture, but if you think SE (or any SH company) is not driven by profit you are blatantly wrong.

I saw the alternatives in other games and personally I found them worse.
Know that on the 12th I will have to start 20 days of daily grinding (around 80 hours total) in another mmo or take out 40-60 dollars.
In ff14 I expect to close things in less than 1 hour (I don't think this time there is only to talk talk, but knows...).

While we wait for a non-profit organization to create an MMO, what do you prefer?

[PaulusHamsteru]

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Ngl, most of your posts in this thread come off as really aggresive for no reason. Go outside, broski, take a break from the game.

[Gunz_Zbestest]

So apparently we're only getting a barding, some housing items and an orchestrion roll. These feel so low effort.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ion/2w4vdz8s0c

If you feel that these gifts are low effort. Have you made posts suggesting specific items prior to an event? Or seen anyone on the forums making a request list? It's better to be proactive than reactive.

[PaulusHamsteru]

If you feel that these gifts are low effort. Have you made posts suggesting specific items prior to an event? Or seen anyone on the forums making a request list? It's better to be proactive than reactive.

I've already listed what I'd like to see in this thread.

[Ephremjlm]

Don't play with me with syllogisms, because I studied Aristotle enough....
...Yoshida said "don't stress yourself too much about a game", with an implicit reference to the [URL] ............

....but if you think SE (or any SH company) is not driven by profit you are blatantly wrong...

...I saw the alternatives in other games and personally I found them worse....

...what do you prefer?

(1) I took philosophy 101 in community college too, its not that deep, its just recognizing bias and hypocrisy.

(2) You pulled ONE quote from Yoshi P on a topic he and his team have spoken about so many times that there is literally no need cite a source because everyone knows it. Trying to pull a single quote and frame it like it is the only one and the gospel reference doesn't work in this instance. Its still hypocritical and I completely stand by what I said. You can't have both arguments. And the hikikomori argument doesn't work globally, and again in Yoshi P's own words the game is globally focused now. The most popular games are those where people are competitive and actively berate eachother. And honestly for those people who are more socially awkward the game has Trusts, so i think that issue is solving itself. Those people aren't the majority anyways, especially if they are signing up for what is supposed to be an massively MULTIPLAYER game.

(3) Believe me I have no misconception that SE is a corporation first and a game developer/publisher second. I also know for a fact that as much as Yoshi P. says he cares about the gamers first, his actions tell that profits are actually his number 1, I think he's just smarter, and more clever when it comes to toting the line.

(4) You saying you have seen alternatives doesn't really communicate to me anything. That could mean Genshin, OSRS, Habbo Hotel, GW2 etc. That argument comes down to gaming preference in which I have no gripes over someones preferences. FF14 is always going to cater to the highest number of people they can get and then slowly see how much they can get away with to maximize profits. There's no point in sugarcoating it. That said, if you've read the old forums, offsite forums from back then, and if you have followed game development recently, then there has been a somewhat successful trend of holding these companies feet to the fire. We pay their salaries. If our arguments don't have support, oh well. If instead our criticisms we raise have validity, and others feel the same (which it looks like at least a decent chunk of player do, whether or not the number is high enough for SE to care idk) then it makes clearly speaking our peace important so that other players can attest, and devs have the opportunity to improve things now, or in the future. Combating people with valid criticisms is weird unless you feel like it is actively destroying something about the game that you love.

[Ephremjlm]

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And tbh I have plenty of games I can play, but the difference it sounds like between us is that I like having things to constantly come back and do in FF14 and I actively want to be here because I know how good it can be when the team has implemented good content. I don't think games feel good when that have you do menial basic tasks and then give you a giant congratulations pop up on screen. It makes me actually feel like im wasting my time. And I have played and still play other MMO's which don't have that problem. And its not like all I do is play games, im just not obsessed with "end game". I think games should start at level one, and I feel like most good ones do. But to each their own on that part.

[Raraka]

You can say the same thing about way too many things in this game. If they refuse to update the glamour system and plates beyond bandaid fixes, then I guess we should stop getting glamour as well.

We just got the glamour sets update, and before we got the size change from 400 to 800

Im not asking for a revamp as a whole of companions, just, SOME update to it

[Rinoa_353]

I wish we could buy the older Starlight furnishing from years prior in game like we used to be able to way back in the HW era. I have missed out on a lot since I didn't have a housing plot for a few years and didn't have space to store them when I got my apartment.


Now that I own the ideal home, I have space but I'm not paying 5 dollars for a mini Starlite tree. One can argue that glams, bardings, emotes and mounts are something everyone gets so I can see why they would monetize those. But all event housing furnishings should always be sold by the event venders for the various events as the years go on because housing is truly a limited thing. I don't mean fighting for plots, I mean owners of apartments and cottages simply don't have the storage space for them and not everyone can afford to have extra retainers to store them too. Especially when it comes to outdoor furnishings since apartments and FC rooms can't use them at all. Unless they add an outdoor balcony for apartments, outdoor housing furnishings from the events should always be available to purchase in game during the events. I don't mind SE selling those things year round but at least bring those things to the event venders since we have to wait an entire year after an event wraps up to be able to buy them again in game.


I would have loved to have several more mini trees, lights and more to decorate my entire home and also all of the outdoor ones I missed because I didn't have a yard at the time to get them. I used to just grab one of each mostly and missed others until I finally got my homes with the space to use multiple ones of them and to store them too. I don't even care if they are not sellable in the MB like they currently are, just let me buy the furnishings from years prior in game now that I have the ideal home to use them.

[Miguel85NYC]

So apparently we're only getting a barding, some housing items and an orchestrion roll. These feel so low effort.

https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...ion/2w4vdz8s0c

The whole event is low effort.. I dont care about the damn rewards. I care about the event it self. and how bad it is

[Roehann]

Bardings are probably at the bottom of things I want anymore from these events.

Although I like bardings, I do agree with you on a whole... I mean, the poor Chocobo hasn't been touched or updated in forever! After all these expansions, one would think they could have increased the rank it could get from 20 to something higher so all these fates we're fighting in would be worth it for our companions are well..

Sadly like a lot of things in this game the devs talk a lot, but don't follow through.. It's almost borderline lying to their customers in my opinion...