[FF14 Mobile]Class Showcase

[Loggos]

From what I have seen mobile version jobs have more depth and identity than PC

It kind of reminds me of PvP where classes have fewer skills but those skills were well-chosen to craft a job's identity. More like avoiding redundancy than dumbing things down. Fewer buttons can also mean fewer opportunities for overlap. If every healer has 20-30 buttons for example then there is more room to make some actions similar/create equivalences. But if you only have 8-10 buttons per jobs too many equivalent actions will be much more noticeable and you might have a stronger incentive to make the few buttons you have meaningful and unique.

This feels like it confirms something I both feared and somewhat expected, that XIV's development is still stuck in 2014. Probably using outdated tools and slow internal processes that actively hamper them, all because "it's how we've always done things."

Iirc similar info came out of Bethesda somewhat recently, where their way of making games hasn't evolved and everything is taking significantly longer than it should.

I can only hope that this is a wake-up call that creates some pressure (and/or opportunity) for them to take the issues of their outdated underlying code seriously and start a project to overhaul it from the ground.

I don't know if this is possible but perhaps there's not just a PC --> mobile one-way ticket and instead you can also use the mobile game code as a foundation/starting point for a modernised PC and PS5 version? (Perhaps that's total nonsense though, I'm not a programmer. I just thought of Genshin/Infinity Nikki/Wuthering Waves/etc. who develop the same game for several platforms simultaneously. So I wonder do they really create every version from scratch or can you reduce the workload by using some code/programming across platforms?)

[Lorika]

(Perhaps that's total nonsense though, I'm not a programmer. I just thought of Genshin/Infinity Nikki/Wuthering Waves/etc. who develop the same game for several platforms simultaneously. So I wonder do they really create every version from scratch or can you reduce the workload by using some code/programming across platforms?)

it depend. generally, since thoses games first target is the mobile market, they use either Vulkan or OpenGL as 2D/3D Render API.
OpenGL is the most cross-platform API, while Vulkan was dev for Android but it's based on an AMD technology (And AMD Chipset are used on X-box and PS4/5).

Or they use already well know and cross-platform Graphical Engine (like Unreal Engine, Unity etc...) and Game Engine to facilitate the port to another platform.

[Daralii]

it depend. generally, since thoses games first target is the mobile market, they use either Vulkan or OpenGL as 2D/3D Render API.
OpenGL is the most cross-platform API, while Vulkan was dev for Android but it's based on an AMD technology (And AMD Chipset are used on X-box and PS4/5).

Or they use already well know and cross-platform Graphical Engine (like Unreal Engine, Unity etc...) and Game Engine to facilitate the port to another platform.

Gachas have historically been built in Unity, though some companies have started moving to Unreal. I haven't had much luck looking up rendering APIs, but I think most at least use OpenGL and some version of DirectX.

[Connor]

I guess because it’s technically a different combat design team to the main game that it seems more inspired. Maybe our guys have just given up?

[Ath192]

I enjoy that combat distance, its much more immersive than being so zoomed out your an ant in a pile. We'll see if this is how you actually play the game or its just to showcase the abilities.

[genuine_stranger]

Why do these jobs look better than the ingame ones?

Lol

Lmao even

[Avoidy]

More like [Patch 8.0] Class Showcase.

You'll hate me for saying it, but you all know it's possible. Tell me you can't see all of those buttons mapped to a controller for an MMO where a sizable chunk of the playerbase (especially in Japan) plays on console.

I was thinking the same thing. This gameplay looks sorta like a watered down but flashier version of what we currently have, so I wouldn't be surprised if they just take it in this direction going forward for the PC version as well. Especially if the mobile version is a big success where metrics are concerned.

also lol at summoner looking almost 1:1 identical to capped smn in the pc version. literally built for a mobile gaming experience. god what a joke

[mallleable]

Mobile BRD actually doing something kind of clever with its song mechanics -- actually making them like mini rhythm games.

[Loggos]

Mobile BRD actually doing something kind of clever with its song mechanics -- actually making them like mini rhythm games.

It's such a nice small detail/design idea and gives the job gauge a mechanism that is a lot more thematically fitting than a normal spender.