The game needs to open up

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I played elden ring, everyone I know that plays FFXIV played Elden ring, except 1 person actually. Plenty of older MMOs didn't have quest markers either as people have pointed out. Did you play elden ring?

We can extrapolate the following information from this:
1. Elden ring appeals to a similar demographic of fantasy RPG players since even Yoshi P released Dawntrail by 1 week after Elden ring so his playerbase could have time to play it.
2. It's clear players are no longer enjoying FFXIV being so accessible it no longer has any difficulty or engaging content or interesting jobs
3. Things have changed, QOL features no longer make this MMO attractive and instead players are clamoring for gameplay and depth

Simply put, they have made the game so "convenient" you don't even have to play it most of the month you pay your subscription for it. Nothing is static, and tastes change, even in the MMO world.

OK, here's a counterpoint. I played Elden ring. 1 of my friends played Elden ring. The friends I have who played XI did not play Elden ring.



Therefore, players who like old school mmos didn't like Elden ring.
Same line of thought.

[Ath192]

OK, here's a counterpoint. I played Elden ring. 1 of my friends played Elden ring. The friends I have who played XI did not play Elden ring.



Therefore, players who like old school mmos didn't like Elden ring.
Same line of thought.

I think we both know that's not true. There are a lot of similarities between Elden ring's medieval dark fantasy and MMOs of any age who have a medieval or at least semi medieval fantasy feel to them that would attract the same crowds. You are free to disagree of course but most people with common sense could make that connection even if you don't see it.

This is the same reason why the person that posted underneath you is making an outlandish take.

Also, your friends who do play XI like it right? Doesn't XI also not put markers for quests? I guess they like that sort of quest style too. Regardless of whether they played Elden ring or not.