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  1. #11
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    The design of dark knight in FFXIV since the patch it was introduced is that it can choose to spend MP on damage or defenses. You might as well remove the job from the game if you remove the MP from the darkness spells. If you want that job, play warrior.
    Yeah, and funnily enough the job is struggling ever since. Almost as if, and this is going to be wild, it's not good design if 3 jobs in a role get their damage for free and only have to manage their defenses, while the fourth has to do an either-or. Crazy thought, I know. I am also aware that we'd overload poor people's mental capacity if tank defenses weren't based on fixed CDs and fixed mechanical CDs but could be scales based on resources, people can barely handle having two charges of HS on Paladins and having to figure out whether to use one on somebody else. Sorry, was a silly thought.

    (don't get me wrong, obviously the opposite would work and be far more interesting, but if you think dual-stances and stuff are ever going to come back that's so utopian we might as well ask Mars City Yoshi P what he thinks about that)
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    Last edited by Carighan; 12-07-2024 at 07:25 PM.

  2. #12
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    Thane Ryder
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Emitans View Post
    The design of dark knight in FFXIV since the patch it was introduced is that it can choose to spend MP on damage or defenses. You might as well remove the job from the game if you remove the MP from the darkness spells. If you want that job, play warrior.
    There is no choice in DRK toolkit between spending MP on defense or dps, there hasn't been for years. If you ever spend MP on TBN and it doesn't break, that's not "oh I made this choice and I got this tradeoff", it's a mistake, every time all the time.
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  3. #13
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    Kaeline Artelus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Return BW to 5 stacks
    Make BW restore 1k instead of 600
    Lower the CD of Delirium/BW

    Lots of ways to go about it, but I doubt it'll be seen as an issue seeing as DRK is the #1 tank at the moment.
    Translation : Please SE make DRK the new OP Tank.
    Be serious for a second please.
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  4. #14
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    Alondite Ragnell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Translation : Please SE make DRK the new OP Tank.
    Be serious for a second please.
    It already is.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    It already is.
    Well.... In your dream maybe?
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Well.... In your dream maybe?
    It is currently the tank doing the most damage in FRU, with the most amount of clears of any tank in FRU.
    And its even the 2nd most cleared on job for FRU overall, only behind PCT.

    So I don't know what you're on about.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    It is currently the tank doing the most damage in FRU, with the most amount of clears of any tank in FRU.
    And its even the 2nd most cleared on job for FRU overall, only behind PCT.

    So I don't know what you're on about.
    I was sure you were talking about this lol.

    Sorry but you're talking about only one Raid.... And seriously Damage? just lol... Even a Dancer do more damaga.

    Please, can you remind me what is the job of a tank? oh yeah to soak damage and survive.... Which DRK, in this department is the good last. (oh and please don't play the LD card, we all know that, most of the time, healer mess it up)

    So, no, only one raid don't make a Job OP.
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  8. #18
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    When damage is all that matters in this game then yeah I'd have to agree with Oizen Drk is probably the best tank at the moment

    To add on to this (not including dungeons since no one cares to min max those) all tanks can survive whatever is thrown at them so all that's left is who does the most damage to skip phases or to beat enrages. I suppose if say for the sake of progging then the other tanks might add more leeway.
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    Last edited by JuicyHeals; 12-10-2024 at 06:34 AM.

  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Even a Dancer do more damaga.
    Damn got me there, let me know how your dancer tank runs go
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Damn got me there, let me know how your dancer tank runs go
    Thank you <3
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