Dark Knight Simple yet effective buff idea

[Lorika]

Or, the MP regen is 800 instead of the current 600.... Way more simple and more effective.

[Carighan]

I'd go a step further:

* Remove the mana cost from Darkness skills entirely.
* Give them a CD instead.
* Make them stronger.
* Make TBN not have a CD in itself.
* On using TBN, you give yourself a 15s debuff that prevents using TBN again.
* TBN then auto-combos into a button that removes this debuff, with a scaled manacost based on the remaining duration on it.
* As now, depleting TBN gives a free Darkness use, in this case it instantly resets the CD.

The idea would then be that our mana is entirely for TBN, but depending on income we can go wild chaining TBN usage.

[Emitans]

* Remove the mana cost from Darkness skills entirely.
* Give them a CD instead.
* Make them stronger.
* Make TBN not have a CD in itself.
* On using TBN, you give yourself a 15s debuff that prevents using TBN again.
* TBN then auto-combos into a button that removes this debuff, with a scaled manacost based on the remaining duration on it.
* As now, depleting TBN gives a free Darkness use, in this case it instantly resets the CD.

The idea would then be that our mana is entirely for TBN, but depending on income we can go wild chaining TBN usage.

The design of dark knight in FFXIV since the patch it was introduced is that it can choose to spend MP on damage or defenses. You might as well remove the job from the game if you remove the MP from the darkness spells. If you want that job, play warrior.

[Carighan]

The design of dark knight in FFXIV since the patch it was introduced is that it can choose to spend MP on damage or defenses. You might as well remove the job from the game if you remove the MP from the darkness spells. If you want that job, play warrior.

Yeah, and funnily enough the job is struggling ever since. Almost as if, and this is going to be wild, it's not good design if 3 jobs in a role get their damage for free and only have to manage their defenses, while the fourth has to do an either-or. Crazy thought, I know. I am also aware that we'd overload poor people's mental capacity if tank defenses weren't based on fixed CDs and fixed mechanical CDs but could be scales based on resources, people can barely handle having two charges of HS on Paladins and having to figure out whether to use one on somebody else. Sorry, was a silly thought.

(don't get me wrong, obviously the opposite would work and be far more interesting, but if you think dual-stances and stuff are ever going to come back that's so utopian we might as well ask Mars City Yoshi P what he thinks about that)

[Terhix]

The design of dark knight in FFXIV since the patch it was introduced is that it can choose to spend MP on damage or defenses. You might as well remove the job from the game if you remove the MP from the darkness spells. If you want that job, play warrior.

There is no choice in DRK toolkit between spending MP on defense or dps, there hasn't been for years. If you ever spend MP on TBN and it doesn't break, that's not "oh I made this choice and I got this tradeoff", it's a mistake, every time all the time.

[JuicyHeals]

When damage is all that matters in this game then yeah I'd have to agree with Oizen Drk is probably the best tank at the moment

To add on to this (not including dungeons since no one cares to min max those) all tanks can survive whatever is thrown at them so all that's left is who does the most damage to skip phases or to beat enrages. I suppose if say for the sake of progging then the other tanks might add more leeway.

[Lorika]

I hope, really hope, that you realize how ridiculous and flawed your logic and argument are?

i mean it's like saying : i'm the school top scorer because i got 20/0 in math... Hmm? the rest? don't care only math count. My average? who care! only math count.

Why i use math? because when you want o calculate something, to get the result you need all the variable and not only.
And this what you are doing : DRK is the actual OP tank because is tank doing the most damage on ONE Ultimate raid.... the rest? don't care... Well, no you must care. This game doesn't resolve around one raid.

[Supersnow845]

I hope, really hope, that you realize how ridiculous and flawed your logic and argument are?

i mean it's like saying : i'm the school top scorer because i got 20/0 in math... Hmm? the rest? don't care only math count. My average? who care! only math count.

Why i use math? because when you want o calculate something, to get the result you need all the variable and not only.
And this what you are doing : DRK is the actual OP tank because is tank doing the most damage on ONE Ultimate raid.... the rest? don't care... Well, no you must care. This game doesn't resolve around one raid.

DRK is doing the most damage on literally anything with DPS check and is the tankiest tank in regards to single heavy hits common in high end content

DRK excels at everything meaningful except being a well designed job

[Carighan]

And this what you are doing : DRK is the actual OP tank because is tank doing the most damage on ONE Ultimate raid.... the rest? don't care... Well, no you must care. This game doesn't resolve around one raid.

Why would it be OP? You realize that "not the worst" does not automatically equal "OP". As in, when somebody says "the last thing DRK needs right now is more damage", they are not actually stating "lulz, DRK is OP". The words are quite different. Also you really need to check sources before you try to use them against someone else's argument, DRK is currently leading damage in all areas (Savage + EX + Ult), the margin is wider in the last but it exists everywhere. Does that make it OP? Of course not, "the damage tank" is an acceptable niche, so long as there's a downside attached, like having the weakest short-CD.

[Oizen]

I'm pretty sure the advent of Abyssal Drain getting 500 cure potency its also just become the best dungeon tank if you can properly cycle its mits.
Dark Mind is also arguably the strongest tank mit now in terms of value vs cooldown, even just functioning as Oblation #3 is pretty powerful