Series Rewards

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Then have i got something for you. Nikke, genshin, street fighter, tekken, overwatch, call of duty, diablo, brawlhalla, multiverse, pso2 ngs, pso2 base what do all these games got in common mission passes that once item is gone its gone. Hell even fortnight or fart night depending on. You all must be New TO FOMO aka fear of missing out lol

...Nikke, Genshin, Street Fighter, Tekken, Overwatch, CoD, Diablo (IV?), Brawlhalla, Multiverse, PSO2 and Fortnite are all games that heavily depended on the battlepass for player retention, with PSO2 from my personal knowledge containing nearly no items that DIDN'T come out and be available later when I played back then.

Fortnite & Overwatch literally are monetized around the battlepass + shop model and I'm gonna assume so are many of the games you listed. Nikke and Genshin are Gacha games, they literally are just fancily disguised Lootbox + Battlepass games with pretty waifus paired with an acceptable story.

Final Fantasy XIV if anything is closer to PSO2 on this, in which it doesn't make sense to rerelease the tier 25 rewards after over two years have passed. PSO2's gold battlepass was also fairly easily available with Stargems and didn't exactly require money.

I also recall there being a slide being posted on the forums everytime this topic is brought up that says that tokens (Trophy Crystals) will eventually be usable to purchase items of past Series., so if someone could post that here I'd appreciate it.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

1 expansion (6 series ago, so we would be getting 6.1's items in the shop now), 5000 crystals for a framer's kit, 10000 for an emote, minion, or fashion accessory, and the full 20000 stock for a mount or outfit.
How does this sound? (reminder that apparently the series malmstone counter stops at 100 so there is a finite amount of trophy crystals you can farm per season)

Would sorta go by the tier an item was released on, i.e. Archfiend Set was Tier 25 so that would be the most expensive from Series 1. Since we are currently locked to 20000 as a cap, I suppose that would be the logical price point (since about every level gives 1000 Trophy Crystals).

[brancinaed]

I also recall there being a slide being posted on the forums everytime this topic is brought up that says that tokens (Trophy Crystals) will eventually be usable to purchase items of past Series., so if someone could post that here I'd appreciate it.

Some of us hope this also means Feast rewards, because they returned rewards from the early Feast seasons but haven't gone past that. Hopefully we get lots of the previous rewards available to people still doing PvP today!

[LibitIncarne]

...Nikke, Genshin, Street Fighter, Tekken, Overwatch, CoD, Diablo (IV?), Brawlhalla, Multiverse, PSO2 and Fortnite are all games that heavily depended on the battlepass for player retention, with PSO2 from my personal knowledge containing nearly no items that DIDN'T come out and be available later when I played back then.

Nikke: Now has the Archive System allowing you to replay old Event Passes
Genshin: You're talking about Housing Items and Framers' Kits here, outfits from previous events were added to the shop one update after the event they were in ended
Street Fighter (6): I was literally unable to find information about this
Tekken (8): Has been out for less than a year
Overwatch: Everything prior to Season 11 is either obtainable in the shop or rotationally in other events
Diablo Immortal: Requires you to pay in the first place
Diablo IV: I was unable to find information about this
Brawlhalla: Literally reruns old passes with the same rewards and more new ones on top, you even get to keep your progress in the "Classic" passes if you had progress when they were first out
Multiversus: Everything is buyable for premium currency if it's in a Battle Pass that has fully elapsed. Legendary items if they're 2 passes ago.
PSO2: Mentioned by you
Fortnite: Any Battle Pass rewards that are older than 18 months are added to the Shop.

[Stormfur]

Some of us hope this also means Feast rewards, because they returned rewards from the early Feast seasons but haven't gone past that. Hopefully we get lots of the previous rewards available to people still doing PvP today!

This. I'm happy to put in the time/kills to earn the things even if the modes themselves don't even exist anymore. I wonder how many people who earned those items originally still even play?

[Gunz_Zbestest]

As comical as those check marks are. You have the evidence right there. They are slow yes, but they do eventually get around to giving us the rewards. Will it end at season 12? Who knows. The Garo event is another reoccurring reward series.

[DendrielConcade]

It really isn't that hard of a concept to accept since the Dev's directly said they'd do such. For someone who's done every Series to completion at current, I wish I had more things to blow my Trophy Crystals on that isn't just Materia stuff and even then I barely get much Materia from doing it. Is it really that hard for them to give us essentially Tropaios/Virtu variations of older The Feast gear, or just I dunno something like Mogtomes where there's a cycling inventory of things that aren't worth terribly much but is an alternate way to get them(Furniture Items from Dungeons, Dungeon Gear, Minions, etc).

[Sinstrel]

I'm okay with some things being unavailable.
A player doesn't need access to every trinket ever. I certainly don't have everything. I never will. That's okay!

Although it's okay for you, doesn't necessarily mean its okay for the vast majority of other players. The OP isn't asking to access every trinket ever, just the series rewards which have no reason to be FOMO in the first place. It isn't like they are earned rewards from a memorable 1 time event (unless folks consider being subscribed to the game at the correct time and clicking "register for duty" as earning).

As OP suggests, these rewards are akin to seasonal event rewards that you can easily click on the quest, skip cutscene, and viola, your reward is successfully "earned." I would also agree with you, however, if the rewards took some sort of effort to obtain and were only given out to a handful of players as the past Feast rewards were (although I think even those rewards should have been available to more players as well since the game mode was so dead and unappealing to such a vast swathe of its targeted audience)

SE should most definitely provide a means to obtain these rewards to allow that option for thise players who do wish to obtain them. I don't see any wrong in providing the option. Those who opt to get them later on can, and those players who are on your side with not being able to get them have the option to continue to not get them as they always have.

I see no negatives with this proposal. But perhaps I'm blindsided by my own bias, in which case I encourage others to help me see things differently.

[CamuiKushi]

The only reason I think these should be made available is because they said there would be some way to acquire them. I've got all the series rewards from the start so it doesn't affect me one way or the other, but they should stick to their word. Even if they make each reward 5K or 10K of crystals to acquire to make the grind roughly the same.

Edit:

1 expansion (6 series ago, so we would be getting 6.1's items in the shop now), 5000 crystals for a framer's kit, 10000 for an emote, minion, or fashion accessory, and the full 20000 stock for a mount or outfit.
How does this sound? (reminder that apparently the series malmstone counter stops at 100 so there is a finite amount of trophy crystals you can farm per season)

OK yep, this sounds fine to me

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I see no negatives with this proposal. But perhaps I'm blindsided by my own bias, in which case I encourage others to help me see things differently.

No no, I don't really think your bias is wrong here, considering they have been showing in their presentation how this was supposed to be a feature of Tokens (Trophy Crystals) in the first place. Their "eventually" is just absolutely overkill at this point, since it has been over two years since 6.1 and "nothing" returned.

They never went back and said "actually we will not do this", they also did not do anyhting about it either. Right now we have every reason to be upset because they did not actually announce this to be actually eternally limited rewards.