Another World First Clear got disqualified due to "Cheating"

[DynnDiablos]

If you have to use mods/plugins in order to play this game - I don't find you impressive. The game was designed that any fight/content can be done successfully without ANY of the things PC players love to tack on. I would be much more impressed by savage, ultimate raid clears by console players than a PC player using every plugin under the sun.

[ikarino]

Wise words, how are you going to clean something so fast under these conditions? It is illogical, Square is to blame for everything.

[Themarvin]

A point is that the use of parsers can be seen as mandatory for raiders, even ignore all the culture around it in the raiding scene, do consider: This is a game where high end content has enrages, to ensure you actually play well, and don't just walk in with 4 RDM and spam rezzes until the boss falls over, enrages are essentially raid-long DPS checks, the game never gives you any way to tell if you are doing well or not in terms of DPS, there is no way to tell if your rotation is good or not, or even if you did follow a guide, if you are executing it well, maybe you are concerned to fumble it in the heat of the moment, parsers are the only way to be certain that you are up to par, because the game never gives you a way to know otherwise.

ACT does have more to it than a parser, but that's a whole other can of worms, it's a framework tool, and how each person uses the framework is on them.

It did not used to be mandatory in the old days using a crutch like this...

It is not permitted, it create an unfair advantage over console users, which is a huge part of FFXIV, unlike other MMO's which it is not, so you can't justify it... and people keep jabbering about it being grey area and whatever, but the man himself said NO multiple times and that is how it is...

Parsers is NOT raider culture... it has been something that has been added to it as a crutch... if you go far enough back, it was none existent and there is quite a few MMOs in the past as well.

If the boss does not die before enrage, start with stop dying, then learn where you can do max damage and when you have to save your DPS boosts due to boss 'downtime'

You don't need a parser to do that, other than making up excuses it can't be done without.

[Mortex]

Sounds like ACT is a cheating tool.

If it was just a dps meter - fine. But with all this additional information it provides you clearly have an advantage over people who don't use ACT / are on console.

I really enjoyed not knowing if a stack or aoe was magical, physical or (and this is the best one) freaking darkness damage. Same as buff timer that took them until endwalker and a person getting banned for it to be implemented. How does a more or less free online side and random modder do a better job in quality of life changes or viera and hrothgar hats/hairstyles then square does. We do pay money and don’t get the most basic stuff that people do for free.

[Mortex]

It did not used to be mandatory in the old days using a crutch like this...

It is not permitted, it create an unfair advantage over console users, which is a huge part of FFXIV, unlike other MMO's which it is not, so you can't justify it... and people keep jabbering about it being grey area and whatever, but the man himself said NO multiple times and that is how it is...

Parsers is NOT raider culture... it has been something that has been added to it as a crutch... if you go far enough back, it was none existent and there is quite a few MMOs in the past as well.

If the boss does not die before enrage, start with stop dying, then learn where you can do max damage and when you have to save your DPS boosts due to boss 'downtime'

You don't need a parser to do that, other than making up excuses it can't be done without.

And what happens if you do really good yourself but still hit the enrage multiple times because one person in the group does not press his buttons and does waist the time of 7 other people ? What would you do as a party leader in this situation if you don’t know but you are stuck at this fight for more then…… let’s say 6 hours because people in pf are not that good. But only very specific people. How do you know what person is waisting your time and wants a carry and what person actually wants the kill.

[Commander_Justitia]

What would you do as a party leader in this situation if you don’t know but you are stuck at this fight for more then…… let’s say 6 hours because people in pf are not that good.

As raid lead you identify the person who performs badly and kick him from the group, as it was the requirement to know your stuff before you joined, as you made that clear in the partyfinder description.
You don't really need tools for that I would argue. There are indicators that will give you enough information, aggro bar is one but not perfect. Looking at buff timings, looking at downtimes, if they are casting etc. once you know the mechanics they become routine and you can spend more time looking to optimize I guess.

[Avoidy]

Imagine being favored by the devs in the way that raiders are atm. DT has been frontloaded with so much stuff designed to appeal to them; if you're not into raiding, you can basically pound sand for 8 months but if you enjoy being in a room doing the synchronized dance with 7 other people, you've got extremes, unreal, savage, ultimate, and chaotic soon(tm). And if you're obsessed with repetitively rerunning the same content over and over again for a bigger number, they've got your back there as well; they've meticulously standardized every job to the point where there's like a tiny difference in output between them and they all play in fundamentally similar ways. If there was a job that didn't bend to this meta, or had elements of RNG sprinkled in, they axed that real quick in the name of standardization. All this, all for you! Raiders eating good! Mmmm, yummy yummy! Game plays like bland oatmeal and everything feels repetitive af but at least the high end parsers obsessed with biggernumber are happy!

And then they cheat on stream
LMAO
probably won't even be banned
meanwhile, everyone else who just wants a foray or a relic or housing upgrades or a deep dungeon or a variant dungeon or something like that, please wait until mid 2025 or beyond! sorry! we spent so much time building content for people who can't play without viewing the arena from space while microsoft sam reminds them to apply their DoT. Story is garbage this time around too, but please don't retire! Have fun doing expert roulette for 8 months! Please run Jeuno again!

[IOwn92FCHouses]

Reading this thread is spicy! I'm enjoying it quite a bit. So many chipped shoulders. So many generalizations and exaggerations. I'd say a lot of hyperbole, too.

All to have it not matter at the end of the day, because Square is bleeding money, so actively doing something about it will harm one of their few bottom lines that is still in the black. I say, embrace it! Improve your gameplay experience with mods that fix things square doesn't or can't fix. Get a meter to help show you areas where you can improve in combat. Even get the small dot that doesn't actually do anything once you have learned the dance.

The world is your giga modded oyster. End of the day, you'll never know who uses and who doesn't.

[brinn12]

At this point, I believe leaks are done on purpose. It didn't start with TOP. TEA and DSR world first had players using third party tools, and VODs are still up on Youtube to prove it. Reality is, most streamers are using some form of third party tool to gain advantage in raid. They just don't show it on stream.

Square's stance on this has to change. If they're against every mod, start scanning for mods and banning people. Or would this be spending money to stop something that generates profit? I wonder.

[Schan]

Square's stance on this has to change. If they're against every mod, start scanning for mods and banning people. Or would this be spending money to stop something that generates profit? I wonder.

From my understanding in Japan it's illegal for companies to scan... "privately owned"? computers so there's that.