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    Reports for watching cutscenes at boss??



    I really need some explanation if this is actually the case or not? Have players (specifically tanks) successfully been reported for not skipping boss cutscenes to rescue the DPS/Healers that impatiently pull a boss?
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    There is no rule against pulling while someone is in a cutscene. It's just being polite to wait but they don't necessarily "have" to wait.

    It is not reportable to wait for a cutscene, or pulling while someone is in one.

    As a tank I just own it if someone decides to pull and simply go in to tank the boss. That could otherwise be treated as reportable since "I'm not tanking". Game's rules are dumb sometimes.
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    Last edited by Mesarthim; 11-29-2024 at 04:23 AM.

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    lol. Nobody is going to ban you for letting a DPS die or the party wipe if you were watching a cut scene. They can cry about it and report it. GMs are people, and probably screened for the smallest bit of common sense.

    Now you are a GM, and you get this report. Do you investigate and see this happen, would you ban anyone? Of course not. Neither would they. Anyone who would wouldn’t last long at the job anyways because they aren’t good people.

    It’s funny to see people pull the “wElL AkTuashlly, technically, tHe TOS says X” and proceed to make the most messed up interpretation they can come up with to justify their take.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 11-29-2024 at 04:40 AM.

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    If it is the lower end stuff I see no reason to wait, I would say it would be polite when it is with then last 2-3 expansions though, but wont break anything either in that department.

    YOU can watch all cutscenes from the Inn's as well and if you got a house/apartment or apartment in FC/being in FC... you can place a piece of furniture that also would make you able to go over logs.

    So you wont really miss anything, it is bad design in general from SE to put the cutscenes where they do with any group content, it would be better put if it was upon leaving the instance and when unlocking the raid/dungeon/trial getting the start cutscene there as well.

    I almost always wait from SB and up and from SHB/EW and up I wait every single time,

    Anything with ARR/HW no reason unless too many people is a first time of course.

    EDIT:

    This has nothing to do with reporting someone, I would have no grudge anyone watching a cutscene, in the contrary, but it is not going to make me stop starting the fight with the boss at the lower end content, and if it is both tanks or both heals, would just have to wait, got eyes and ears including on the two other teams!!!
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    If you are in a CS how are you supposed to know you need to save somebody (if you are the tank)? Reported because you don't possess the gift of premonition? As far as I remember you get no notification that the fight has started when you are in a cutscene? (At least I believe I recall these awkward moments of surprise when you're out of a CS and you realise the fight has already begun without you.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    YOU can watch all cutscenes from the Inn's as well
    The experiences of watching a boss entrace in a dungeon vs. at the inn are completely different. At the inn it's context-less and has no impact. What makes the cutscene interesting (for those who like pre-boss cutscenes at least) it's the in-the-moment experience of meeting the boss for the first time, esp. if it's a story dungeon/story-relevant boss.
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    It's basically like hunts: The community likes to make its own rules up. But no these things aren't reportable.
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    You probably aren't going to get sanctioned for that, especially if it is genuine, and you make an effort to join in on the combat once you are done.

    What you may get sanctioned for, however, is if you refuse to join combat after watching a cutscene.

    "If you are a tank, someone pulls and you don't skip to rescue them..." -- I very much doubt this, and frankly this response just comes across as trying to assign themselves a victim card because people are actually watching the cutscene. If this happens then a successful dispute is likely to be the case. If this were also universally applied (and not just happenstance with over-enforcement of rules), then I would go as far to say that there would be a non-insignificant amount of drama about it.

    The counter to the above point is that the perception can be that the person pulling and expecting the player to skip can be seen as compelling a playstyle, which is also listed, as much as lethargy is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    You probably aren't going to get sanctioned for that, especially if it is genuine, and you make an effort to join in on the combat once you are done.

    What you may get sanctioned for, however, is if you refuse to join combat after watching a cutscene.

    "If you are a tank, someone pulls and you don't skip to rescue them..." -- I very much doubt this, and frankly this response just comes across as trying to assign themselves a victim card because people are actually watching the cutscene. If this happens then a successful dispute is likely to be the case. If this were also universally applied (and not just happenstance with over-enforcement of rules), then I would go as far to say that there would be a non-insignificant amount of drama about it.

    The counter to the above point is that the perception can be that the person pulling and expecting the player to skip can be seen as compelling a playstyle, which is also listed, as much as lethargy is.
    lethargy-- this is the second time I have heard this term used within the context of tank gameplay. Is Lethargy a term that's actually somewhere in the ToS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostar View Post
    lethargy-- this is the second time I have heard this term used within the context of tank gameplay. Is Lethargy a term that's actually somewhere in the ToS?
    See below:
    Aiding the enemy / Uncooperative behavior / Lethargic behavior
    Refers to an act of performing actions that give an advantage to an enemy (monsters, or the opposing team/players in PvP content) by not performing the necessary gameplay required of the situation. This may be combined with combat sabotage as well.
    These are all listed in Prohibited Activities in Final Fantasy XIV
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    There are always people who just can't wait for 10-20 seconds for a boss cutscene, and this is sad enough as it is.
    But reporting a newbie for not skipping a cutscene is a new level of being petty. This community really never fails to disappoint.

    But to be serious, I just can't imagine a report like this would go through. I doubt any GM in their right mind would ban someone over watching a cutscene, something the game itself offers you to do and is part of the whole experience.
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

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