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    I've never had a random healer use rescue to my benefit. I've only had them use it because they're scared and don't know what they're doing. Losing a safe GCD or 2 is frustrating. Stop punishing me for your lack of game knowledge.

    Rescue should be removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses View Post
    I've never had a random healer use rescue to my benefit. I've only had them use it because they're scared and don't know what they're doing. Losing a safe GCD or 2 is frustrating. Stop punishing me for your lack of game knowledge.
    It's funny, because from their perspective, you are the one lacking game knowledge and costing them a weaving slot just to not have to waste GCD and mana to pick your sorry behind up from the floor again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carighan View Post
    It's funny, because from their perspective, you are the one lacking game knowledge and costing them a weaving slot just to not have to waste GCD and mana to pick your sorry behind up from the floor again.
    Them forgetting x job has a movement tool is a them issue. Them not understanding how snapshots work is a them issue. 90% of the playerbase is woefully inexperienced. Considering how badly you struggle in savage, I have a feeling that you are a part of the 90%.

    80% uptime AST on their best M1S run trying to talk down to me. Who do you think you are? Know your place. In fact, you can talk gameplay to people when you learn to not 4x weave. Which you do multiple times in your runs.

    This sort of thing really bugs me, man. Dude has been griefing parties since Eden's Gate. Over 5 years, and you've failed to improve over all that time. And then you have the AUDACITY to talk down to me about game knowledge. To imply that you have any sort of perspective worthy of consideration. All to what? Try and get a jab in?

    Instead of taking jabs at people online, why don't you hit a target dummy instead? You'll save the backs of the 7 people a bit of strain.
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    Last edited by IOwn92FCHouses; 12-04-2024 at 04:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses View Post
    Them forgetting x job has a movement tool is a them issue. Them not understanding how snapshots work is a them issue. 90% of the playerbase is woefully inexperienced.
    If that is the case then wouldn't the healer be justified in assuming the worst? In most cases people don't know each other unless they're in a premade party. A rescue happy healer may very well know about movement tools but not expect the targeted player to use them.

    What I usually do is reserve rescue for people who have made a mistake previously. If someone is standing in AoE I'll assume they have a plan to get out, unless they're doing something really egregious. It's very much a coinflip but it avoids punishing the more knowledgeable players.

    I think rescue is fine as is. It's interesting and genuinely useful even for optimization (LB animation cancel). People will make mistakes when using it, but it doesn't happen all that often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    If that is the case then wouldn't the healer be justified in assuming the worst? In most cases people don't know each other unless they're in a premade party. A rescue happy healer may very well know about movement tools but not expect the targeted player to use them.

    What I usually do is reserve rescue for people who have made a mistake previously. If someone is standing in AoE I'll assume they have a plan to get out, unless they're doing something really egregious. It's very much a coinflip but it avoids punishing the more knowledgeable players.

    I think rescue is fine as is. It's interesting and genuinely useful even for optimization (LB animation cancel). People will make mistakes when using it, but it doesn't happen all that often.
    No, it is not. A rescue-happy healer shouldn't exist in the first place. It's a waste of a button slot that only serves for me to use Surecast or Arms Length pre-emptively to counter it. Best case is I get rescued 2 inches because I had already moved back to a safe spot. Worst case is I'm moved to an unsafe spot because the offending person doesn't know the fight (M2 normal says hi).

    It's a button that is used for griefing more than it is for saving. Feel free to look up the horror stories posted to this forum and elsewhere. You'll have no shortage.

    Remove Rescue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IOwn92FCHouses View Post
    Remove Rescue.
    Remove people asking to remove rescue, IMO. If you can't handle rescue that's a you problem. Like you say and so beautifully exemplify, 90% of the playerbase is woefully inexperienced. You need help positioning. Happy to help out. I'm used to getting yelled at instead of getting thanked, but that's fine. You and me both know you would have died otherwise.
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