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    blackmagics's Avatar
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    Francois Cartier
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100

    How to make a player rage: Use Rescue

    Is it me or does the healer skill "Rescue" actually do more harm than good? like 95% of the time when using it on people to move them to a safe spot they get upset that you force moved their character. At this point I kind of stopped using it in fear that I would upset a player, and that actually letting them die, and just ressing them would be the safer option in regard to not triggering players.
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    Valmaxian's Avatar
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    Jase Shepard
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    Malboro
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Come on, healers need at least ONE thing to make the role enjoyable…
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    Ellisar Loravalur
    World
    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I know i can trust my healer when they remember that RESCUE exist.
    Even for trolling.
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    PorxiesRCute's Avatar
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    Nekhii Qestir
    World
    Kraken
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    I appreciate a healer who saves my ass when I position myself wrong. Sorry you've been getting trolls I guess.
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    A'zalie Nitsah
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    Louisoix
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    Summoner Lv 100
    the problem with rescue is that it's a relic of a time when most job didn't have a dash/backdash. For every useful rescue I've seen, I've seen 3 or 4 rescue on people knowing what they were doing (and end in situation where the combinaiton of rescue and dash put you in an unsafe zone, for example). It's really about being able to read the other players, and it's not something easy.
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Not my problem if you can't stand at the correct spot and I have to drag you over.
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    Azrael Belmont
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    For me specifically Rescue has done more harm than good. I have only ever had it used on me a hand full of times in my FFXIV career, but it has been unnecessary every time. I have either been "rescued" straight through or into a mechanic I would have otherwise avoided, or "rescued" too early from a mechanic I would have got out of anyway if they had just waited a second longer. I know they are trying to do the right thing (maybe) but with the way server ticks work, and the possibility for visual and input lag, it just doesn't work the way it's suppose to.

    There should be a toggle in the character settings that just says "Rescue? On/Off", and if you turn it off Rescue doesn't work on you.
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Please stop. Healers have had enough of their interesting abilities watered down, made as child friendly as possible or just straight up removed entirely. The role absolutely cannot take even more dismantling player of agency.
    Rescue is literally one of the only interesting tools a healer has left to use that actually requires a minuscule modicum of awareness. Please don’t make them remove that because you got trolled with it once
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  9. #9
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    Character
    Schan Starfall
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    I'm left wondering why this is the DPS section but okay.

    From a healer point of view: Rescue is a double edged sword. Most of its issues comes from server ticks and it not working when you press the dang button. So this is what can happen: you press the button and it doesn't go off in time so the person dies anyway or gets a vuln stack which actually punishes the healer for other people messing the mechanics; you save them and they walk back into bad / you save them and they might appreciate you; you were actually wrong and accidentally pulled people into bad.
    Or you know.. you do it on purpose to troll but I normally see this amongst friends.

    As a DPS: i rarely had it being used on myself when it did happen i've mostly appreciated it since people normally attempt to save others. it used to? save you from bad after using LB (it has a ridiculously long animation). the one time i didn't appreciate it i ended a friendship over it so there's that.

    My experience out there in the PF wilds is that Rescue is rarely used but then again this might be an EU thing. Wouldn't surprise me since there is soooo much stuff i see online about this game that I don't see in the EU servers so I take it as mostly NA-centric takes.
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  10. #10
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Schan View Post
    I'm left wondering why this is the DPS section but okay.

    From a healer point of view: Rescue is a double edged sword. Most of its issues comes from server ticks and it not working when you press the dang button. So this is what can happen: you press the button and it doesn't go off in time so the person dies anyway or gets a vuln stack which actually punishes the healer for other people messing the mechanics; you save them and they walk back into bad / you save them and they might appreciate you; you were actually wrong and accidentally pulled people into bad.
    Or you know.. you do it on purpose to troll but I normally see this amongst friends.

    As a DPS: i rarely had it being used on myself when it did happen i've mostly appreciated it since people normally attempt to save others. it used to? save you from bad after using LB (it has a ridiculously long animation). the one time i didn't appreciate it i ended a friendship over it so there's that.

    My experience out there in the PF wilds is that Rescue is rarely used but then again this might be an EU thing. Wouldn't surprise me since there is soooo much stuff i see online about this game that I don't see in the EU servers so I take it as mostly NA-centric takes.
    Extremely well put, however sadly trolling is not used exclusively amongst friends- at least not in NA- which is likely these type of threads pop up from time to time.
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