Rework Riase

[Lambdafish]

I feel like this discussion contributes to a much bigger one that has been slipping since the introduction of RDM. What even is DPS role identity anymore?

What are casters? They used to be damage-dealing turrets with low mobility and higher damage. BLM was the pure turret, and SMN was a more supportive turret with a hard to use raise (based on its link with SCH).
What are phys ranged? They used to be supportive damage dealers with a lot of party utility and movement, while dealing less damage.

Now we have casters with as much mobility as a phys ranged, and the phys ranged have far less interesting and useful utility than they ever have. The "ranged tax" is still in effect for phys ranged despite SMN have almost as much mobility while also having the most useful utility you can get, and that's without talking about how RDMs raise utility is better than healers. We are in a situation right now where half the casters are what Phys ranged should be, and phys ranged are questioning their purpose.

People here screaming that removing raise from casters would affect their identity don't realise that role identity has already been eroded and requires fixing.

[Carighan]

People here screaming that removing raise from casters would affect their identity don't realise that role identity has already been eroded and requires fixing.

Sure, but you got to start earlier than that, then.

DPS still, primarily, deal damage.

Healers however don't primarily heal, and tanks don't actively tank.

Got to fix the more basic stuff first before arriving at per-job reworks.

[Lambdafish]

Sure, but you got to start earlier than that, then.

DPS still, primarily, deal damage.

Healers however don't primarily heal, and tanks don't actively tank.

Got to fix the more basic stuff first before arriving at per-job reworks.

Oh I 100% agree. As a tank main I miss tank mechanics, but that is a completely different conversation. I just wanted to identify that the balance between what specific DPS architypes are for (particularly the ranged roles) has slowly been lost.