Rework Riase

[BabyYoda]

Raise is a doom spell for SMN and RDM and I believe this spell caused tons of balance issue for DPS jobs.

Here is my suggestion:

• If someone died, it will have respawn timer, this timer will increase based on how much player died starting from 60s,120s,240s,can't be revived unless healers raise them.
• Remove raise completely from DPS jobs and have some alternatives for SMN,RDM to reduce their respawn timers.
• Remove death debuff for first 2 deaths at least.

Respawn timer will let players have room to recover and DPS jobs will not be doomed because of this feature

[NegativeS]

this is a lot of needless complexity you're trying to shoehorn into the game, all to remove a lot of the identity behind RDM and SMN, two of the more well received jobs in the current design philosophy dumpster fire

no thanks, cool story tho

[Lyth]

Or you could just standardize Raise as a 'Phoenix Down' ranged role action (with a fixed number of uses, contingent on content difficulty, and no MP cost) and have it no longer count against a job's DPS output.

[mallleable]

I think it would just be easier to replace Verraise with like Vermedica or something, and buff RDM's damage. I have Thoughts™ on why Verraise is actually hurting RDM's identity that because of it, RDM is basically forced to play permanently 'white shifted' when RDM is all about balance.

And then rework Summon Phoenix, make it like a 3 minute cool down separate from SMN's damage rotation, and lock a couple of instant rez charges behind the summon while also buffing it's regen capabilities. Should water down SMN rezzes enough to also warrant some damage buffs, and gives SMN a pretty cool, and thematic situational summon.

And finally reduce the cast time on healer rezzes down to 3 seconds. If we're removing rez responsibilities from DPS, then it needs to be made easier on healers.

[BabyYoda]

Or you could just standardize Raise as a 'Phoenix Down' ranged role action (with a fixed number of uses, contingent on content difficulty, and no MP cost) and have it no longer count against a job's DPS output.

I have though of this before and I think it will have an issue regarding the balance.

So I suggest there is a raise mages which is healers,
and support dps which cannot raise, but they can lower death timer by 50% or 25% which is a mid between having a raise and not having raise at all.

it will keep their identity of having utility to reduce death timer and also removing the idea of nerfing them to the ground because they have raise

[BabyYoda]

I think it would just be easier to replace Verraise with like Vermedica or something, and buff RDM's damage. I have Thoughts™ on why Verraise is actually hurting RDM's identity that because of it, RDM is basically forced to play permanently 'white shifted' when RDM is all about balance.

And then rework Summon Phoenix, make it like a 3 minute cool down separate from SMN's damage rotation, and lock a couple of instant rez charges behind the summon while also buffing it's regen capabilities. Should water down SMN rezzes enough to also warrant some damage buffs, and gives SMN a pretty cool, and thematic situational summon.

And finally reduce the cast time on healer rezzes down to 3 seconds. If we're removing rez responsibilities from DPS, then it needs to be made easier on healers.

well, your suggestion is valid, but I don't think Vermedica would be enough of an identity,

Increasing summoner raise to 3 min is also a solution but raise is a raise, it will still an issue and if SMN and PCT have same damage SMN will be superior because they has a game-changing too powerful of a spell.

Instant cast raise for healer is actually healthy for the game,you can balance it by having higher cooldowns

[BabyYoda]

I have though of this before and I think it will have an issue regarding the balance.

So I suggest there is a raise mages which is healers,
and support dps which cannot raise, but they can lower death timer by 50% or 25% which is a mid between having a raise and not having raise at all.

it will keep their identity of having utility to reduce death timer and also removing the idea of nerfing them to the ground because they have raise

this is a lot of needless complexity you're trying to shoehorn into the game, all to remove a lot of the identity behind RDM and SMN, two of the more well received jobs in the current design philosophy dumpster fire

no thanks, cool story tho

if an identity is causing a balance issue then the identity do not need to be removed, but reworked an adjusted

[PercibelTheren]

Raise is not an issue, it's an excuse. Just like party utility and everything else.

[VictorSpoils]

Main change it needs is to prevent itself from being overwritten so auto-pilot healers/casters stop wasting GCDs/MP reviving everyone twice. But even then, it might not stop two from snapping at the same time.

[Supersnow845]

this is a lot of needless complexity you're trying to shoehorn into the game, all to remove a lot of the identity behind RDM and SMN, two of the more well received jobs in the current design philosophy dumpster fire

no thanks, cool story tho

Since when is SMN well received, it was dumped like yesterdays kitty litter as soon as another caster came out

Or you could just standardize Raise as a 'Phoenix Down' ranged role action (with a fixed number of uses, contingent on content difficulty, and no MP cost) and have it no longer count against a job's DPS output.

What about if someone wants to play a purely selfish ranged class and doesn’t want to deal with raise