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  1. #31
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    ACE135's Avatar
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    Minah Denma
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    Ragnarok
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    Archer Lv 100
    You know you can do content for fun and not for rewards.
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  2. #32
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    Dastan's Avatar
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    Dastan Twillane
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    Leviathan
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    Paladin Lv 100
    This probably isn't helpful to you but, if I was THAT bored with the game, I would just stop paying for it.

    I love playing this game and always find stuff to do in it, even if it gets repetitive. But then again, I'm not spending 10 hours a day on it either. I got work and the most I will ever play is about 6 hours (and a lot of times far less than that.) before logging off and going to bed. I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of what I'm putting in money wise. Since I know I'm not a top 1% day one ultimate raider, I just take my time with the game and enjoy everything it has to offer at a casual pace. I don't rush to complete everything cause I don't find that fun. I want to ENJOY the game, not scarf it all down in one sitting. I still have jobs to level. I need to finish BLU and I just recently cleared the first 2 DT Exs, and eventually I want to clear the 7.1 ex.

    What you'll find is not everyone is the same kind of player. I came from WoW years ago and one of the NPCs dialogs really stuck with me during that time. "Slow down. Life is to be savored and enjoyed."

    No sense in rushing everything and then torturing yourself by looking for reasons to stay. Just take a break and play some other games. That's what I do when I get bored of FFXIV for a bit.
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  3. #33
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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    The constant argument I hear from Yoshi P and people defending the game's current gearing system is that the lockouts mean you can't play tons at once so you can get other things irl done or play other games. Here's the thing for people like me:

    I work 50 hours a week. I have a family. I can't play the game really at all on weekdays. I get most of my gaming done on weekends, usually in 5ish hour bursts. What little time i get to game, i can't hardly get anything accomplished in 14. I can do one expert roulette, reclear normal raids, and maybe do a WT. That's it. Usually I can spend most of my Saturdays and little bit of time on Sundays playing games. I should be able to grind, grind, grind, as much as I want those days. The current daily/weekly lockout systems just means that I literally can't cap my tomestones most weeks. Despite lockouts supposedly being for me, they actively prevent me from being able to even moderately gear my main job at all, let alone alt jobs.

    If I want to do 17 expert roulettes in a row and earn the bonus each time, why can't I? If I want to do the new normal raids five times a day, why can't i? If I want to somehow get 2000 tomestones in a week, why can't I? Why is the savage lockout one clear per week instead of one clear per role, per week?
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  4. #34
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    Rad Calidum
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    Ultros
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    You know you can do content for fun and not for rewards.
    Rewards are fun.
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  5. #35
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    Vintersol's Avatar
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    Evora Vintersol
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    Alpha
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SargeTheSeagull View Post
    The constant argument I hear from Yoshi P and people defending the game's current gearing system is that the lockouts mean you can't play tons at once so you can get other things irl done or play other games. Here's the thing for people like me:

    I work 50 hours a week. I have a family. I can't play the game really at all on weekdays. I get most of my gaming done on weekends, usually in 5ish hour bursts. What little time i get to game, i can't hardly get anything accomplished in 14. I can do one expert roulette, reclear normal raids, and maybe do a WT. That's it. Usually I can spend most of my Saturdays and little bit of time on Sundays playing games. I should be able to grind, grind, grind, as much as I want those days. The current daily/weekly lockout systems just means that I literally can't cap my tomestones most weeks. Despite lockouts supposedly being for me, they actively prevent me from being able to even moderately gear my main job at all, let alone alt jobs.

    If I want to do 17 expert roulettes in a row and earn the bonus each time, why can't I? If I want to do the new normal raids five times a day, why can't i? If I want to somehow get 2000 tomestones in a week, why can't I? Why is the savage lockout one clear per week instead of one clear per role, per week?
    Maybe this game doesn't fit to your schedule. It doesn't help if the game hands out everything without some sort of gating. People with way more time than you would burn out quicker. It would create an unhealthy dynamic for the players which can result in a toxic environment. Also the demand for fresh content would skyrocketing. No one on earth can produce content at the same pace as players consume it.
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  6. #36
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    Ellisar Loravalur
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    This kind of stuff makes me wonder where we should draw the line between "Lack of content", "Lazy content" and "Respect your time"
    TBH, i don't think our combat is bad. DT has interesting design and ideas. Our gear progression still sucks....and why you want to reach the highest iLVL? your only option is ultimate or clear savages faster. FFXIV still has a lot of issues with incentives

    When i reached the point where i asked myself "that was cool..what do i have to do now?", i did Doma Restoration, Ishgard restoration, Eureka, Dalriada, BLU, Island Sanctuary, gold saucer, chocobo feeding, SQUAD/Grand Company max lvl, Extremes.....and now i have the same question lmao

    I may try to clear POTD and HoH solo, however, i am playing a MMO..i would like to have a MMO experience.

    You may say "players will always finish the content faster than they are able to produce"...i think they need to change how/why they produce content then. I've been playing for almost 5 years, i still think i am slow af. Average streamer may reach the same level in ~1year. Some dedicated casual may reach in <1year. Hardcore teenager in 6months.
    https://ffxivcollect.com/characters/23580994
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...acter/23580994
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    Last edited by Elissar; 11-25-2024 at 03:18 AM.

  7. #37
    Player JimCasey_RF6's Avatar
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    Jim Casey
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I don't relate; There are so many things to do in this game that it sometimes takes me an hour just to decide what to do next.
    (5)

  8. #38
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    Mint Goh
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ACE135 View Post
    You know you can do content for fun and not for rewards.
    Sadly the content isn't fun nor rewarding.

    Same copy-paste formula since ARR with absolutely 0 innovation also money in game has 0 value unlike others MMO where having billions gils etc is rewarding.
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  9. #39
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    Evora Vintersol
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    Alpha
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    Sadly the content isn't fun nor rewarding.

    Same copy-paste formula since ARR with absolutely 0 innovation also money in game has 0 value unlike others MMO where having billions gils etc is rewarding.
    Even the holy World of Warcraft doesn't have unlimited and rewarding content.
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  10. #40
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    Gridania
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    Schan Starfall
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    (...) I really want to get my sub's worth but it feels like the game keeps pushing me away whenever I try to do something.

    Do I just go back to farming Ex mounts? What is this?
    I don't know... myself I always end up spending longer than 1 hour in-game so I wouldn't know how to help you.
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