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    But it should be. The best analogy for it would be fighting games:

    Online play and ladders are fine and all, but participating in your local community events and going to regional tournaments -- where you're engaging with people and forming friendships/rivalries -- that's the best part of playing a competitive game. Your team, your familiar regional faces, that one person you lose to so hard that you make a goal out of beating them, it's all the best part of playing seriously.

    If you're dedicated enough to come to a forum for FFXIV PvP and discuss it, you're dedicated enough to find a community to play the game in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gidsonBrand View Post
    But it should be. The best analogy for it would be fighting games:

    Online play and ladders are fine and all, but participating in your local community events and going to regional tournaments -- where you're engaging with people and forming friendships/rivalries -- that's the best part of playing a competitive game. Your team, your familiar regional faces, that one person you lose to so hard that you make a goal out of beating them, it's all the best part of playing seriously.

    If you're dedicated enough to come to a forum for FFXIV PvP and discuss it, you're dedicated enough to find a community to play the game in.
    I respect what you're trying to do, and as I've mentioned elsewhere, some prominent Discord members have worked incredibly hard (e.g. Primal's efforts with RW should give some of those guys lifetime free subs). But given the clout-chasing, padding, parsing garbage exhibited by some in Discord, they will never be a community I wish to join. Just an insular bubble dislocated from the real PvP community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    they will never be a community I wish to join. Just an insular bubble dislocated from the real PvP community.
    And attitudes like yours are exactly why we have to tell people that the PvP community is worth engaging in. Why we have to explain ourselves and invite them out to fun events despite people like you naysaying and thinking there's a villain around every corner of the community.

    Yall, we are not insular, we are not some hidden illuminati gang deciding who gets top 100 or who gets to have fun in your Frontline roulette.
    I have laughed and enjoyed my time in FFXIV more with the PvP community than every other form of content this game has to offer. That's all I'm trying to promote and yet you consistently show up to try and put a damper on the party for some imaginary resistance.

    Don't listen to folks like this. Come hang out, watch what we do, and be a part of the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gidsonBrand View Post
    And attitudes like yours are exactly why we have to tell people that the PvP community is worth engaging in. Why we have to explain ourselves and invite them out to fun events despite people like you naysaying and thinking there's a villain around every corner of the community.

    Yall, we are not insular, we are not some hidden illuminati gang deciding who gets top 100 or who gets to have fun in your Frontline roulette.
    I have laughed and enjoyed my time in FFXIV more with the PvP community than every other form of content this game has to offer. That's all I'm trying to promote and yet you consistently show up to try and put a damper on the party for some imaginary resistance.

    Don't listen to folks like this. Come hang out, watch what we do, and be a part of the community.
    Oh dear. Look. People decide whether PvP is worth engaging in irrespective of the presence of self-aggrandizing sub-communities desperately trying to become Twitch partners. They will find your events and engage with them if they find them fun. And clearly some people do. That's great.

    But I invite you and yours to purchase a few mirrors, so that you might discover why the broader community reacts to you somewhere on the spectrum between apathy and hostility.

    Where are you in the discussions of job balance? Of pressuring the devs to do better? Absolutely bloody nowhere.

    You want respect? Work for the greater good. It's very simple.
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