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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Quote Originally Posted by gidsonBrand View Post
    Funny enough, the PvP community has historically had less drama than the club scene or Ultimates.
    Sure, there's teams blowing up due to differences in skill/mentality/results/etc. but generally we love the game enough to bounce back and shut up about it.

    And while I respect anyone's wish to be anonymous or silent in VC, we have plenty of people who are mute. Just listening to a shotcaller in VC or adhering to a game plan is more than enough to earn respect and be part of the community!
    There's a will and a way for everyone. On the whole, these communities are great and I encourage everyone to join them.
    I didn’t mean to say communites/community events are inherently bad. My apologies if it came across that way. My intention was to respond to the sentiment “that it should be that way”.

    I know communities can do much good and I respect you for the work you put into them. I know it takes a lot of effort and dedication and I have no doubt that the custom matches you host will make CC a good experience for people taking part (also, since this is the internet and tone often gets lost: I'm being sincere, this is not meant to be sarcasm). But I think it’s equally as fair if people don’t feel inclined to join a community. Imo it's just as "right" as joining one. I just want to push back a little on the idea of "xyz should be played like this".

    (Also, you could argue if not being part of a community/discord gives you more peace of mind, which will lead to a better gaming experience and therefore most likely to a better performance on your part, then I think this might also lead to better games for "the broader pvp community", i.e. the people you get put on teams with by the matchmaking. I say that as somebody who is in a discord that I appreciate a lot but I definitely know the effects of "performance anxiety" that you just can't shake off, even when you are mute in a voice call, and that turns your gameplay into poop. As irrational as it may seem in some situations, sometimes you can't really turn that off. Some people do/feel better with complete anonymity or when flying solo.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    but I definitely know the effects of "performance anxiety" that you just can't shake off, even when you are mute in a voice call, and that turns your gameplay into poop. As irrational as it may seem in some situations, sometimes you can't really turn that off. Some people do/feel better with complete anonymity or when flying solo.)
    I can definitely respect people who want anonymity or just want to solo queue, just didn't consider it but that's totally fine!

    I think my message was more geared towards people who were too nervous to try rather than those who aren't interested. Like, as someone who is (I hope) competent at the game I still get performance anxiety, especially with my team. But I want to help people get over that anxiety if it's keeping them from getting the most out of the game. That's the purpose of Temari's customs anyway -- they're introductory games for those who want to play but avoid it due to a perceived lack of ability/knowledge.

    Thanks for clearing the air though, I get what you were going for now!
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    Y'all are dogging on bro for being excited and encouraging others about PvP by suggesting alternatives to the already dire state of the gamemode...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBuggy View Post
    Y'all are dogging on bro for being excited and encouraging others about PvP by suggesting alternatives to the already dire state of the gamemode...
    "bro" is gonna get push-back if he waltzes in here telling people how PvP should be played, particularly given the company he keeps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBuggy View Post
    Y'all are dogging on bro for being excited and encouraging others about PvP by suggesting alternatives to the already dire state of the gamemode...
    the game should be enjoyable and fun for the vast majority of players, not only for his club of friends and acquaintances on discord that organize private matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticCorgi View Post
    the game should be enjoyable and fun for the vast majority of players, not only for his club of friends and acquaintances on discord that organize private matches.
    I'm just telling you how I find the game most fun, and giving you an open invitation to that fun.
    There's nothing wrong with people organizing to get the most out of a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AristocraticCorgi View Post
    the game should be enjoyable and fun for the vast majority of players, not only for his club of friends and acquaintances on discord that organize private matches.
    He never suggested the game should be played a certain way and isn't holding anyone at gunpoint to join. He was just stating some things he noticed and that others might enjoy it. This is just an invitation to foster a community for like-minded people who enjoy PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuneBuggy View Post
    He never suggested the game should be played a certain way and isn't holding anyone at gunpoint to join. He was just stating some things he noticed and that others might enjoy it. This is just an invitation to foster a community for like-minded people who enjoy PvP.
    That's fair. Like-minded griefers and padders, please follow Mr. Brand out the door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    That's fair. Like-minded griefers and padders, please follow Mr. Brand out the door.
    Hey man, I'm not going anywhere. I'll put as much effort into being positive about pvp as you will at hating my friends.
    Like, legit, you're so negative about this you're turning me into an anime protag lol I don't get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Where are you in the discussions of job balance? Of pressuring the devs to do better? Absolutely bloody nowhere.

    You want respect? Work for the greater good. It's very simple.
    You think the bulk of that happens in these FORUMS? HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA. The people who have been here a much longer time stopped wasting their breath on the [English] forums and have gone about it through other means. You talk about the broader community but this forum section represents an even smaller part of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    That's fair. Like-minded griefers and padders, please follow Mr. Brand out the door.
    HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA
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