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    i rather do this than go back with daily quest design of ARR and HW, just overcoplicate for nothing, nobody bother to read all these text just to be real, rank up quest is good, but daily quest can just be random fectch quest 1 minutes long, then we can move out to do other thing
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    i rather do this than go back with daily quest design of ARR and HW, just overcoplicate for nothing, nobody bother to read all these text just to be real, rank up quest is good, but daily quest can just be random fectch quest 1 minutes long, then we can move out to do other thing
    Yeah like pressing the log out button considering there is nothing else to do
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yeah like pressing the log out button considering there is nothing else to do
    someone doesn't has game backlog? or anything else to do? the heck you are doing, watching wall
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    someone doesn't has game backlog? or anything else to do? the heck you are doing, watching wall
    If you started in 2016 and still have a backlog what you are doing…….looking at a wall
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    If you started in 2016 and still have a backlog what you are doing…….looking at a wall
    huh? people buying new game everyday, dude, get a job
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShariusTC View Post
    i rather do this than go back with daily quest design of ARR and HW, just overcoplicate for nothing, nobody bother to read all these text just to be real, rank up quest is good, but daily quest can just be random fectch quest 1 minutes long, then we can move out to do other thing
    I loved doing the dailies back in ARR, Hey were very engaging, Unlike the horrible dailies we get now.. I just finished 3 dailies under 2min.. WTF is that??
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miguel85NYC View Post
    Come on.... you can do better this crap, I did 2 dailies that took less then a minute to do, Talk to a npc and pick up a bag off the floor...
    WTF? How is this engaging? I cant believe it took them this long for this patch and thats all we get.. im so close on unsubbing from the game
    Do it! Do it! Do it!
    You don't need my agreement, but Do it!

    what are you still doing here?
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    I hear there is one mounted quest, but I haven't seen it. I am mostly getting the same quests I got the first day. They are supposed to change with the ongoing story. It's just lazy.
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    "A good RPG needs a healthy dose of imbalance."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    I hear there is one mounted quest, but I haven't seen it. I am mostly getting the same quests I got the first day. They are supposed to change with the ongoing story. It's just lazy.
    Have you gotten any rank up quests? The quests available won't change until you do those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomed_Raven View Post
    I always appreciate good storylines and quests so understand where you're coming from. But let's say SE move their writing resources from the MSQ and guild quests, and put them onto daily beast tribe quests. You spend not the average 1.5+hours doing 12 stacked quests, but all of your available play time doing these long elaborate quests with a nice story.

    That sounds cool, but you got nothing else done and it's the next day, you have to do those same long stories and quests again if you want to level your beast tribe reputation.

    That no longer sounds cool, it sounds like hell.

    I'd wager most people stack 12 daily beast tribe quests (when at that level), skip all the dialog and power through them as quickly as possible. Then spend their remaining time doing other things. Except for the story quests during reputation increase, I imagine people enjoy these. It wouldn't benefit SE or players with limited time, to have long elaborate dailies when they'll quickly become repetitious and too time consuming.
    This is a byproduct of the rigid structure made by SE themselves.
    Nobody is asking for hours of beast tribe quests.

    It takes roughly 30 days to get max rank, right?
    Let's say they want to shoot for 5 min questing per day, we're talking 1h30m.
    The rank up quests take between 5 and 10 min, so let's round up to 2hs.

    So you can make a single quest line that takes 2hs and break that up in small chunks for dailies, but then you have one big quest that will not necessarily be boring repetition, probably have a rising stake and so on, like some side quest lines.

    Leave the repeat boring ones for after max rank.

    But they're hanging on the word "Daily", but that should only affect availability not Quest Design.
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