Why do we lose our dyes when we use the outfit glamour?

[AutumnsHollow]

This is a feature that anyone who likes glamour, or has been playing since 2.0 as I have, have wanted for a very VERY long time. I'm so happy that it's come out. But then I saw the caveat that we lose our dyes which is ridiculous imo.

Special dyes such as jet black and pure white used to be more common back before shadowbringers era but you guys nerfed the quick exploration acquisition rates of the dyes which is why they're so expensive compared to back then. A lot of people including myself don't wanna deal with the gambling RNG and just bought dyes from the mog station to circumvent the new terrible RNG rates, and now for people like myself or other people really into glamour you're asking us to lose so many pure whites, and jet blacks that we've accumulated over the years to get better inventory management?

This actually sucks and puts such a huge damper on such an anticipated feature. It's a really greedy move and it's anticonsumer. I would really like to advocate for SE to let dyes remain on said pieces. People shouldn't be punished for supporting a company they like with money for dyes for said company to turn around and give the ones who have been buying said dyes the middle finger pretty much. That or at least revert the quick exploration pure white and jet black aquisition rate nerf that you guys implemented such a long time ago. Or if you really wanted to support your customers if you lose said dyes on a piece when turning them into an outfit glamour ready thing, get a refund of whatever was dyed on the pieces so you technically lose nothing. Whatever dyes was on said pieces would go straight back to your inventory assuming you had enough space. That would be such an amazing feature, but nope. We don't even get that...

It really just feels like a cash grab to get people to purchase more dyes and it leaves a sour taste in the mouth.

[Iscah]

I assume it's just an unavoidable part of how they're doing the boiling-down into outfits. You're trading the unique individual copies of the items for a checklist of the generic concept of the set of items. The dye is stored on the individual items, which you no longer have.

[CVXIV]

I have yet to use the feature but it reminds me of how the armoire functions
When I was just learning the feature I had lost so many dyes because instead of dying the item directly I'd dye it on the glamour plate itself or I'd store it into the armoire not realizing it wipes everything

[Shougun]

Its more memory efficient (hence having to collect them all in one unit), but this would be 'mostly' how other games are storing their glamour logs too. If every item stored has to also store two sets of dye data, you've taken 20,000 variables, changed them from true and false into true false and fill in two blanks.. you've increased what is being moved / used quite a bit.


So our system is making steps in the right / expected direction, but it reveals a flaw in the dye now that needs addressed separately. Whoever is in charge of money is probably looking like Jet Li from The One at the end of that movie, 'MY MONEY' lol.. but they need to switch it to a more permanent system. Make applying dye cost glamour prisms if you really want (after unlocking the dye), but honestly just making the dye cost more would probably be fine.


Yellow snow dye was 200 gil, now is 4000 gil. I think cash shop is 10 for 8 (ish), honestly feel it should just be $10 for a permanent unlock... though I imagine they'd do $15 with occasional sales.