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  1. #181
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    King'rhys Pendraig
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    This is what happens when you create troll freindly TOS system!

    Why is the game dying?

    No content? No really; their TONS and TONS of side content. FF14 prioritized minority end game part-time elitist rewards for raiders/ultimate players. Meanwhile the majority of the MMO players grinding get joke rewards. + TOS anti-community pro troll system has silenced the community with highly censorship speech. Trolls going around just talking with no real power do not ruin the game for anyone. Trolls in charge of WHO gets to talk and play because of the TOS and report system DESTROY the community in the game.

    #1. FF14 priorities are minority part-time raid players that come back for raids/ultimate then leave. The raid and ultimate mounts/glams/weapons like heads and heels above better than the causal content.

    #2. FF14 just does not care about their majority long term mmo players who CONSTANTLY play the game for longer term rewards. NOT related to ultimate's or raids.

    #3. The TOS is anti-community system of censorship that let a minority of troll players control who gets to talk and play in the community. Anyone who has been a victim of the TOS troll system knows this. Anyone who has not been a victim of this will "quote" some repeated SE line until they become a victim of troll reporters. Trolls just troll talking do NOT run a MMO community. Trolls CONTROLLING who gets to talk based upon a auto-suspension TOS report system with HIGH censorship of speech RUINS a community.
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  2. #182
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    IOwn92FCHouses's Avatar
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    Slot One-six
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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Rhys_Pendraig View Post
    Why is the game dying?

    No content? No really; their TONS and TONS of side content. FF14 prioritized minority end game part-time elitist rewards for raiders/ultimate players. Meanwhile the majority of the MMO players grinding get joke rewards. + TOS anti-community pro troll system has silenced the community with highly censorship speech. Trolls going around just talking with no real power do not ruin the game for anyone. Trolls in charge of WHO gets to talk and play because of the TOS and report system DESTROY the community in the game.

    #1. FF14 priorities are minority part-time raid players that come back for raids/ultimate then leave. The raid and ultimate mounts/glams/weapons like heads and heels above better than the causal content.

    #2. FF14 just does not care about their majority long term mmo players who CONSTANTLY play the game for longer term rewards. NOT related to ultimate's or raids.

    #3. The TOS is anti-community system of censorship that let a minority of troll players control who gets to talk and play in the community. Anyone who has been a victim of the TOS troll system knows this. Anyone who has not been a victim of this will "quote" some repeated SE line until they become a victim of troll reporters. Trolls just troll talking do NOT run a MMO community. Trolls CONTROLLING who gets to talk based upon a auto-suspension TOS report system with HIGH censorship of speech RUINS a community.
    Please consider taking your meds. Everything you just said is a delusion.
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  3. #183
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    Atlas-04's Avatar
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    Atlyss Sol
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    Dancer Lv 100
    On and off but consistent player since ARR and I have canceled my sub for the foreseeable future. It would take a massive change in the game content formula in 8.0 for me to comeback. SE refuses to innovate or try new things at all making the game feel incredibly stale. They have the goodwill to try new things but instead just copy paste the exact same expansion with ancient feeling gameplay systems.

    -Open world is pointless
    -Beast tribe dailies are still talk -> Shiny thing -> Talk
    -Duties are literally the same aoe hallways with different coats of paint.
    -Cinematics have no effort put into them with more /nod emotes than I can take now
    -Patch cycle feels forever with little content added

    I could keep naming stuff if needed. I'll give the lackluster story a pass but there is nothing keeping me in the game except raiding and that is not enough to justify a sub. They could do literally anything to try and keep me interested at this point but they don't. Hoyoverse games have way more content on a much faster patch cycle than this and I'm not held hostage there by a sub fee to keep my house.
    7.1 was really a right mess and finally convinced me SE has no idea what they are doing.

    Just thought I would drop my 2 cents in here before shoving off for good. Farewell o7
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  4. #184
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    Titor Jaraba
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    I can't unsubscribe because I want to keep my house still. I've had it since subdivisions came out and it's been a long time with sentimental value. I'd love to unsubscribe outside of that. For now though I dropped all my account services down. I used to have max retainers + mobile app sub for additional space, but now I'm not buying any extras. So I guess thats some kind of vote with my wallet sentiment.

    Maybe someday I'll be willing to part with my house but we're not quite there yet, even though I barely log in anymore.
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  5. #185
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    Elizabetha Whitelocke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    The sad part is though, I don't really have another MMO to go to now. I refuse to return to WoW, I'm sure as hell not going to play Square-Enix's *other* MMO, I'm kinda "eh" about picking up SWTOR again, and I'm not convinced about trying PSO2 or ESO. This isn't just quitting FF14, this might be where I quit the entire genre because there's literally nothing left I want to play anymore.
    EQ Emu may have a server for you ^_^

    I like the Project 1999 servers. I currently concentrate on Green.
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  6. #186
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    Elizabetha Whitelocke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    it's kind of the cycle of life for corporate run stuff

    has something special that builds a following
    higher ups take notice of popularity and get involved
    slowly over time everything special gets replaced with the generic to aim for more mass appeal
    people lose interest because everything has become so generic
    It's late-stage capitalism. There isn't a single industry, into which I have put money as a customer, that is not falling into this trap.

    It's been 20 years since I told myself, "If you like thing from Company, and Company gets bought, then say goodbye to thing."

    Coders care about making good games. Investors care about making good money.
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  7. #187
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    Gilien Goldwater
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    I've been wanting to unsub for a while for the direction of where the game's just been going of late and it being a slog sometimes waiting in High End duty 2-3 hrs. for a full party but then they put chaos alliance end of December.

    I'm less angry about where the game is but sourly disappointed as it's become less of an MMO and more in spirit of a limited story buy 2 play in spirit. Game feels like it fell off a cliff in some ways.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titor View Post
    I can't unsubscribe because I want to keep my house still. I've had it since subdivisions came out and it's been a long time with sentimental value. I'd love to unsubscribe outside of that. For now though I dropped all my account services down. I used to have max retainers + mobile app sub for additional space, but now I'm not buying any extras. So I guess thats some kind of vote with my wallet sentiment.

    Maybe someday I'll be willing to part with my house but we're not quite there yet, even though I barely log in anymore.
    Well considering because of recent indoor changes and future housing change the TARDIS feature most at of us with houses have to rebuild the interior from scratch, makes it easier to part with the house. Having someplace to store all the expensive furniture is more of a problem.
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  9. #189
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Most of my internet friends from the forums and discords I am in have unsubbed from FF14. Almost all of them joined by Stormblood or earlier, a few as far back as 1.0 and were former WoW players. They soured during the ShB patches and jumped ship during Endwalker. Most did not return to check out Dawntrail. They have since either returned to WoW, switched to those new 3D Chinese gacha games, or have stopped playing MMOs altogether. The main issues they all have in common:

    - Decline in content over the years. Less content per patch and more time in between patchea. They loved long relic questlines and Eureka, and now the game doesn't have that.

    - Disappointment and frustration with the story's unsatisfying payoff of longterm storylines such as Garlemald and the Ascians, and narrative swerve circa ShB when it went from a grounded geopolitical conflict with stakes to a simplistic light vs dark narrative where nobody dies.

    - General dislike of FF14's rabid cult like fandom (I and my friends have been targets on the MMO Champion forums). Does not help that my friends were civil on these forums and got inexplicably perma banned. They also dislike Yoshi-P's dismissive/ignorant attitude towards the Western fans and his seeming hypocrisy and broken promises. They were frustrated by how FF16 turned out.

    I am still subbed, though I hardly play. I don't want to lose my house and all the hours spent meticulously placing items. Over the past two years I have spent more time playing GW2 and retail WoW, the latter I am not subbed to year round.
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  10. #190
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    Kasumi Bunja
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    Exodus ? Nah but in my circly we lost all players except 2 of initial 12 people to DT. The remaining people are my guild lead and me. The rest fled the crime scene that is DT. Crime scence because DT murdered the story in cold blood and most of them could not stand that massacre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    When I saw that we were going from Broil III at 290 potency in ShB to Broil IV at 295 potency in EW, I was shaking with how excited I was. I couldn't believe they were so generous with a whole 5 potency. I'm going to probably scream in excitement when 7.0 comes out and Broil V hits 300 potency, playing SCH going to be WILD once it hits 300!!!

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