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  1. #111
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    Neoyoshi's Avatar
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    It doesn't even concern the main community in terms of what it affects; it's a standalone experience separate from the main FFXIV game.

    Think of it like Diablo: Immortal, (but probably better) it's got it's own servers and service that does not intersect with us.

    They will (probably) have crossover/collaboration events once it does come out globally, but overall it should have no negative impact on us, if anything it's going to bring in extra revenue that could potentially be used for the main game and it's future content.
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  2. #112
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    Vari Myste
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    It feels like someone at SE decided there's very little growth in PC/console gaming with the mobile/tablet generations and is trying to tap the mobile audience but... I don't understand how they plan to do that with this game specifically.

    This isn't the sort of game that is suited for the short attention span of mobile gaming which is meant to be fast and short sessions while you're waiting for a bus to arrive or for water to boil. Is it just not going to have dungeons? Trusts only? Is the entire thing just going to be GATES? I don't understand how this would be monetized.

    Really disappointing to see money put into something so meaningless though.

    My big fear now is that they'll try to link it to the actual game somehow, because I can't imagine anything being compelling enough to make me play a mobile version of FFXIV and it'd hurt to miss out on things as some sort of "incentive" to make a mobile game look successful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsugamesh View Post
    Is this where our sub money has gone? To remake the game on mobile starting from ARR again?

    Maybe they've realised they've ran out of road with how garbage Dawntrail is and they just want to try and milk the original decade all over again. I'm joking but... Also... Am I?
    Had me in the fist half ngl, but Dawntrail has been great so far.
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    Last edited by Sated; 11-21-2024 at 08:47 AM.


  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephremjlm View Post
    I think the next "MMO" SE releases will be a cross platform mobile first experience. Think Toram Online/Genshin Impact.
    Yep I agree and that's exactly what I fear.
    I play Genshin and I like it. It has definitely pushed the boundaries of mobile gaming and is fun to play as a casual/not very difficult combat game on console/PC.
    But the limitations placed on the game design due to it having to be playable on mobile are clearly noticeable. Not just in terms of specs but also in terms of the type of gameplay/complexity they can implement.
    When I think about what Genshin could be if it was just for console/PC I get a bit sad because it has all the potential. You could get so much more elaborate and even cooler gameplay out of it.

    The reversal of good game design towards simplicity to make things compatible with mobile gaming because it's more profitable makes sense from a business perspective of course. But from the perspective of a gaming enthusiast it's just disheartening to see that this is gonna be the major game design model (for life service games at least) going forwards, coming at the cost of more complex gaming experiences we could have had otherwise.
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    Last edited by Loggos; 11-21-2024 at 08:53 AM.

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  5. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended_Demon View Post
    You know what would be funny? I mean really funny? If the mobile version had unrestricted glamour and it made people put more pressure on the devs to do the same in standard game.
    You know what would be funny? If the gameplay wasn't complete ass and it made people put more pressure on the devs to do the same in the standard game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    Was this what Yoshi P wanted for people like me? Did he assume we were too foolish to take any semblance of complexity? How could such an allegedly open developer act so dismissive towards his own players? The flavor of the jobs I loved so much throughout the franchise were mere husks of themselves. What was once a magical world peeled away to reveal a sterile room of four walls. No imagination, no challenge, only accessibility for the sake of it. I didn't feel welcomed, I felt betrayed.
    I'll give healer a try up until level 100. If I do not like it, I'm off the role, entirely.

  6. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    It doesn't even concern the main community in terms of what it affects; it's a standalone experience separate from the main FFXIV game.

    Think of it like Diablo: Immortal, (but probably better) it's got it's own servers and service that does not intersect with us.

    They will (probably) have crossover/collaboration events once it does come out globally, but overall it should have no negative impact on us, if anything it's going to bring in extra revenue that could potentially be used for the main game and it's future content.
    Imagine using DIABLO IMMORTAL to try and save face for FFXIV Mobile

    You do remember how well that was received...right? Or do I need to remind you Blizzard was boo'd off the stage for that game.

    Let alone the post on the previous page which has Yoshi-P himself state that decisions they made in FFXIV were made with Mobile in mind.

    I hope you are ready for the job overhauls in 8.0 knowing that they will have mobile in mind during the design process.
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  7. #116
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    Adam Brazenmutt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Maybe that's why they're numbing down the combat system, to make it work on mobile on the eventual day they'll do cross-platform.
    No, don't speak that evil into existence, cuz it makes sense and it's gonna make me lose my mind!
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  8. #117
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    Whatever, at least they can probably advertise their cook book with all the food they keep pushing into the quests lately.
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  9. #118
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    let's not fix the problem we have like healer feeling useless lack of content Viera/hroth that cannot wear hats new hairstyle better customization more hair color.


    nah let's go do a mobile port instead more money
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  10. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aidorouge View Post
    Well... I see where all the time, money, and resources for the PC version was going now...

    We got the 7.x patch series for this.
    As far as I can tell, no CBU3 budget funds are being spent by Tencent, so your statement is unsound at best. When I read that SE would "oversee" the project, my mind goes towards "No, putting Y'shtola in a bikini is not appropriate" rather than "CBU3 personnel are deeply involved in making the game".

    Letting Tencent create a mobile version of an MMORPG while paying SE for the assets and relative IP is much more profitable compared to having to abandon a number of games-in-progress because the market for said games appears to have tanked.
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  11. #120
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    Connor Whelan
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    When I read that SE would "oversee" the project, my mind goes towards "No, putting Y'shtola in a bikini is not appropriate"
    I would bet Gil this will literally be the first thing they do.

    ‘Sexy Scion Glamours Banner now Open! Only £5.99 per outfit! Purchase all 10 now and get a FREE Y’shtola Bikini wallpaper for your phone!’
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