Glamour Outfits are embarrassingly badly implemented

[lockii]

I genuinely don't understand the design of the new Glamour Outfits, because it feels like it should have been such an easy addition to the Glamour Dresser. Being able to arrange a full armour set into one slot is a very good change, but combining them into a set removes the (potentially expensive) dyes already on it, and you also can't even dye them after combining them, making it pointless over just storing the set in the Armoire and getting an extra Glamour Dresser slot from it. On top of that, sets with alternate gear pieces like the Island Sanctuary sets need to be stored as two separate outfits, forcing you to get multiple of the same item rather than just allowing any of the alternate gear to complete the set and store both versions in one outfit slot.

The code for the Dresser is famously shaky, but surely it can't be so bad that it has to make a worse version of the already highly-limited Armoire to store items with dye data that the code already has a system for. I'd genuinely rather have them add a new "Armour Set" option to the Armoire that works in the way it does now, because at least then it's consistent with how the rest of it works.

[Noox-115]

Love to have struggled for so long to having a house and witness I can't use a glamour dresser in them my bad for using logic I guess

[Kaecilius]

I was honestly fine with most of the implementation (having to get multiple copies of one item is stupid, but whatever, it's something else to work towards), but what really tilted me is seeing that we cannot save the actual Makai Gear as Glamour Outfits, but we CAN store the Tarnished Makai Gear (the Gold Saucer copies) as one. Feel kind of shafted, having done so much PVP to get every single Makai item.

I really hope more items get the Glamour Outfit feature in the future.

[Shougun]

Imo, transitioning into a proper glamour log, I think it's okay the new system doesn't save them (in the long run) but they should have something in place so dyes don't become so painful. Ultimately though I think a logical system would be the glamour log stores the set data scrapped, the glamour plates store the dyes and any other attachments to items, and dyes are made to be permanent unlocks with a GW2 like style (except if we can reduce overlapping colors in the interface that'd be nice).


That the items act like void storage is interesting but imo overly unneeded vs just working easily. Also for outfits with variations, unlock the variation with the one missing item if the other pieces are already present. If they're afraid of duplication for de synthesis then tag items withdrawn with inability to do that to.

[Daralii]

Love to have struggled for so long to having a house and witness I can't use a glamour dresser in them my bad for using logic I guess

They said at one point that they tried putting a glamour dresser in a house and it crashed the server. This is a very well coded game.

[Noox-115]

They said at one point that they tried putting a glamour dresser in a house and it crashed the server. This is a very well coded game.

No f way you are shitt*** me Hahahahahaha

[ovIm]

The way dyes are handled is literally spitting in the face of players not gonna lie.

No f way you are shitt*** me Hahahahahaha

Na, I remember hearing this as well. When someone used the housing glamour dresser, and someone else moved or removed it, the server went buh-bye. Many video games are held together by duct tape and prayers lol.

[Eyrilona]

I have heard it that way too, from previous interviews. I could be wrong on the exact reason (they were very evasive), but apparently that glamour dresser isn't just a gimmicky way of "I have to click this as the only way to open my glamour log", but the object might be connected to the player's collection of items somehow. It can't be both your glamour dresser and someone else's glamour dresser at the same time, so it can only exist in solo instances like the inn rooms where there can never be anyone else in there with you -- there are not enough safeguards for the game internally to understand what should happen if ever another player interacted with someone else's glamour dresser?

[Garnix]

I have heard it that way too, from previous interviews. I could be wrong on the exact reason (they were very evasive), but apparently that glamour dresser isn't just a gimmicky way of "I have to click this as the only way to open my glamour log", but the object might be connected to the player's collection of items somehow. It can't be both your glamour dresser and someone else's glamour dresser at the same time, so it can only exist in solo instances like the inn rooms where there can never be anyone else in there with you -- there are not enough safeguards for the game internally to understand what should happen if ever another player interacted with someone else's glamour dresser?

Yet I can use my FC orchestrion in the FC house and have it play any of the orchestrion rolls I have obtained myself...

[Shougun]

Yet I can use my FC orchestrion in the FC house and have it play any of the orchestrion rolls I have obtained myself...

The inventory system is styled like old C code, it's all very exact with specific memory constraints known and all of it is ready to go, I imagine newer systems are more dynamic. The armory and other log are functionally like WoW void storage than a glamour log in other games, so they're more like items than most other games log systems. There are some ancient ancient quotes on how they did memory but it seems like due to 1.0 being so laggy they chose to go 'known and efficient' to not do that again. Memory is pre-allocated/loaded. Or at least that's old, very old, info.

It's interesting that it's a bank (glamour log), but I'm not sure it really needed to be that way if it cost us dynamic interaction and scalability.