The State of Machinist in DT - Let's talk about it (again).

[Serenaya]

On top of this, parse community bias is showing strong. There are just not many MCH parses, meaning people who "care about performance" are avoiding it like the plague. You aren't seeing the same expression of skill in MCH because people just aren't playing it.

This is just false by the way. MCH's with weapons (like myself) while not explicitly parsing, are still being challenged in damage by melee's/BLM in near full crafted gear. I am not yet BiS entirely, but the disparity is insane. Compare us to a BiS melee currently and it's a good 5-6k+ difference in raw damage.

It's not a parse mentality, MCH is just factually extremely weak and the gap will only grow as the weeks pass.

[justausername]

im playing mch this tier because i am one handed now and its easier for me then any of the melee. i do pretty good damage for a mch in m5S. even topping the entire party at times. however, when I'm trying to prog, there are issues. in m6s people tell me Im griefing just being mch before they see me play. which... they should wait and see cause... yeah.... im not the one griefing in these parties. and there isnt much to add to adds phase honestly because yeah... aoe isnt fantastic. but there is a lot already in our single target kit.

this being said... i understand as a range Im going to be lower then a melee. especially if they have better gear. but its the lack of party buff that is annoying. granted a mch who knows how to use mits can really help too. but a buff would be nice.

[xbahax92]

Can't wait for another "rework" for MCH. How many times we had one now? It's frustrating to see your main getting destroyed with each iteration. They really don't know what to do with this particular job. Bring Ammo back ffs.

[mallleable]

Would be a lazy fix, but giving MCH like a 20% personal damage buff after Barrel Stabilizer is used would help.

[xbahax92]

Tfw MCH gets excluded from Zelenia Ex.

In before someone needs to tell me, cReAtE yoUR OwN pArTY. Yeah yeah, I know. Still feel like bringing attention to this, sigh.

[Carighan]

Tfw MCH gets excluded from Zelenia Ex.

Huh? It's EX6, you do it with any 4 random DPS, she does long before you could ever get to enrage, maximizing DPS matters very little in that fight nowadays.

I mean don't get me wrong, MCH has a lot of issues, but EX6 is not a fight to see class issues on, as it's so undertuned it really does not matter how good or bad your job is in the slightest.

[Reldhir]

What if... Wildfire was a party thingo~ whatsit like 6 weapon skill cap on mch? But what if there was a scaled down secondary effect where members from the party can scale the damage up with their weapon skills too?

It would function like a raid buff but its not a damage scaler it just does damage. Mch could keep their "selfish" moniker because theyre using the team to boost their own damahe as opposed to giving the team damage xD

[Zarkovitch]

I'm sorry for MCH mains out here. Square once again do not know what to do with your class. I hope you get buffed needed or a rework of selfish job becoming a utility raid buff with decent potency. I'm sure square have no choice to do something soon.

[Reginald_Cain]

Clearly its our fault for not using 8 sets of counter and mime materia in conjunction with full metal field. Imagine the gun is your arm. Extend yourself through the enemy's skull. Rain Satellite beams 8 times in a row! Hit like an AVALANCHE!

[Valence]

Maybe there is a huge shortage of actual ammo in Eorzea since they removed Reload and Quick Reload.
Maybe that's why people are reduced to duel with rubber bullets in Shaaloani.

We're shooting at the enemy in raids with rubber pellets