FFXIV players are so obsessed with DPS

[BabyYoda]

I know this isn't only FFXIV but MMOs as a genre,

But why? I play video games from many other genres that doesn't have this problem and I it is more competitive than any MMO out there.

As someone who comes from PvE and PvP games both I never encounter a game that so obsessed with DPS meter and balance like FFXIV.

Even though I don't believe in balance in FFXIV or other games.

DPS,HPS is the only 2 factors in the game that will make X job a better instead of having a good gameplay and fun experience trying different new things even if it feels troll.

It doesn't make me feel comfortable really, If I quit raiding it is because of this.

[Erzaa]

I know this isn't only FFXIV but MMOs as a genre,

But why? I play video games from many other genres that doesn't have this problem and I it is more competitive than any MMO out there.

As someone who comes from PvE and PvP games both I never encounter a game that so obsessed with DPS meter and balance like FFXIV.

Even though I don't believe in balance in FFXIV or other games.

DPS,HPS is the only 2 factors in the game that will make X job a better instead of having a good gameplay and fun experience trying different new things even if it feels troll.

It doesn't make me feel comfortable really, If I quit raiding it is because of this.

I mean... I agree with you, but is it really the players who are obsessed, or the game itself is obsessed and forces players to only care about dps?

[Kohashi]

I know this isn't only FFXIV but MMOs as a genre,

But why? I play video games from many other genres that doesn't have this problem and I it is more competitive than any MMO out there.

As someone who comes from PvE and PvP games both I never encounter a game that so obsessed with DPS meter and balance like FFXIV.

Even though I don't believe in balance in FFXIV or other games.

DPS,HPS is the only 2 factors in the game that will make X job a better instead of having a good gameplay and fun experience trying different new things even if it feels troll.

It doesn't make me feel comfortable really, If I quit raiding it is because of this.

Then you didn't play that many games now did you? In WOW you even get the chance to get kicked for not doing enough DPS and yet you say FF14 is the obsessed game over DPS.

DPS and big numbers have always been a discussion as long as raids/dungeons existed in a game.

Before transferring to FF14 I used to play TERA and Blade and Soul. TERA had an unofficial DPS Metter similar to what ff14 has and the Blade and Soul dev team caved in and added a personal dps metter(that only you could see) after the community requested that feature relentlessly and they were using add-ons anyway. That was because bosses had hard enrages if the team had crap dps.

I can argue that FF14 is the most lenient game out there in terms of DPS and a great deal of fights have to go extremely wrong for you to see the boss enraged.

You can also make/ join a group that simply doesn't care about the fight, the DPS, the clear, or the efficiency/consistency of executing any mechanic at all.

[BabyYoda]

I mean... I agree with you, but is it really the players who are obsessed, or the game itself is obsessed and forces players to only care about dps?

It is actually both,
Jobs designed around DPS as a 1 factor to make job viable,
Player also that I find ingame is so obsessed with it and it is the only factor that developers have for players to be better at

[Erzaa]

It is actually both,
Jobs designed around DPS as a 1 factor to make job viable,
Player also that I find ingame is so obsessed with it and it is the only factor that developers have for players to be better at

They have to be. High-end raiders have to deal with enrage mechanics, some casual duties have soft enrages too. When the game forces you to kill something in a certain amount of time, or die, then the players are going to be forced to care about dps.

And yea, that mindset tends to bleed down after awhile, and players may even get annoyed and call you a time waster for taking even a few minutes longer to clear something. It's just the nature of the game, and it's something that's even taught to sprouts in Novice Network. It's not going to change anytime soon.

In a single player game, it doesn't matter if you kill something in five minutes or 45 minutes. But this game forces players to play almost perfectly or lose.

And, even in a single player game, the longer a fight goes on, the higher the chance that exhaustion might set in and mistakes will happen anyway.

[Nero-Voidstails]

the problem is the two minute burst and the fact the game is balanced on extreme/savage I would like to see more complex skills then that much DPS give back the complexity of jobs in short

[Bellybell]

I know this isn't only FFXIV but MMOs as a genre,

But why? I play video games from many other genres that doesn't have this problem and I it is more competitive than any MMO out there.

As someone who comes from PvE and PvP games both I never encounter a game that so obsessed with DPS meter and balance like FFXIV.

Even though I don't believe in balance in FFXIV or other games.

DPS,HPS is the only 2 factors in the game that will make X job a better instead of having a good gameplay and fun experience trying different new things even if it feels troll.

It doesn't make me feel comfortable really, If I quit raiding it is because of this.

Not sure how 'many' of this 'many other games' you're talking about. but there is nothing news to the game world.

Survivability only need to performs just about enough, but the DPS number is always the bigger the better.
Always is, always has been and always will be for 99.99999999% of any games out there, not just FFXIV or MMOs

[Kes13a]

if you knew this wasnt just about 14 but the genre as a whole, why the clickbait title?

dps has long been the best way to be able to brag about epeen.

[Kaecilius]

Dying to a 0.7% enrage after bashing your head against a fight for the past 4 hours will make you care about DPS really quickly

[Xelanar]

Optimization and improving numbers is human nature. You can see it everywhere, not only in video games.

Imagine two groups of raiders, each one 100% equally friendly and nice. Which one would you rather be a part of:

1. The group who brings in enough DPS to kill a boss consistently.
2. The group who lacks DPS and hits enrage.