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  1. #21
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hallarem View Post
    I bet at least 7.1 7.2 and 7.3 were pre-written, so I doubt they can course correct until like one year from now. That's why Yoshi P needs to sell you on the cat in his nonsense P.R interviews.
    They probably have Wuk merch ready to go and are kind of bummed that people in all regions seem to dislike her. Oops, gotta fix that impression people have of her somehow...

    I predicted she would be plastered everywhere, people said nah she was toned down in the trailer, and would you look at that. She was indeed everywhere. Either yapping some inane lines nobody will be able to quote after a week without googling it, or mentioned by someone else when she was neither there nor relevant to what was happening. They tried to give Koana more of a spotlight but the Vow of Reason tried to block an attack with a gun and almost got himself killed defending a cow. Just end me.
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  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    He knows us directly because we pulled Wuk Lamat's ass out of the fire when he kidnapped her, and we made him afraid without even beating him up.

    It is entirely weird for him to compliment us that way, as it simultaneously praises Wuk more than it does us.

    She's not here. Her judgment had nothing to do with getting our aid, that was Erenville's judgment. Her judgment has nothing to do with our strength. There is 0 reason to praise her.

    It'd be way cooler if he realized we were the ones that killed the other Blessed Sibling in Wanderer's Palace HM and said something like, "No wonder Manxome Molaal Ja Ja didn't make it home..."

    But no, this is Dawntrail, so they have to take every opportunity to fellate Wookiee Lamar.
    how would Bakool Ja Ja know we were the ones that defeated the other blessed sibling? there's part of the MSQ where he is brought up and we intentionally glaze past it because why would we admit to being the one to defeat him when these people had just begun to open up and talk to us. As far as the Mamool Ja know he's missing

    and how would he know that it was Erenville that suggested us to begin with? When he first met us it was with Wuk Lamat getting food and as far as he was concerned, she chose us to be our ally

    she very much could have still declined seeking our aid regardless of what her friend had said if we didn't meet her expectations

    "Wuk Lamat chose her ally well" is not weird

    would it have been cool for it to be referenced again?
    Yeah, sure, I love when the game makes callbacks and references to other events I've done but I don't think it would have made sense for him to assume that the other blessed sibling was defeated by our hand
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  3. #23
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    K'ayla Rhiki
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    One thing I think is missed is how other characters are brought up. Usually when one character mentions another, it's for a reason. It progresses the story, it gives insight into the (or both) character(s) we may not have already known, etc... The problem with Wuk is that she's mentioned just to mention how great she is -- the Mary Sue problem. Even in Jueno, Bakool Ja Ja has turned his simp levels up to 11 and mentions Wuk and "Oh of course she won, she chose you, WoL! She's so smart and amazing and perfect!" And yes, I'm taking the piss out of what he actually said, but that's what every interaction in Dawntrail feels like.
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  4. #24
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    That flashback did seem a bit weird to just throw in like that. And I agree with the other poster that the Turali act like there's only one Dawnservant with these references. They don't talk about Koana even when he would be more suitable for some instances.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    That flashback did seem a bit weird to just throw in like that. And I agree with the other poster that the Turali act like there's only one Dawnservant with these references. They don't talk about Koana even when he would be more suitable for some instances.
    You'd think the Pelupelu would vibe with Koana more as he's the Vow of Reason. He'd be the one they'd be more interested in as he would be the one in charge of commerce, relations between nations and general regional politics. But I guess that would be too complex so let's just use Wuk Lamat.


    I agree with this thread entirely about the Bakool Ja Ja 'compliment'. Why he brings up Wuk when she's not even involved just makes him so distant. He doesn't wanna get to know us or compliment us directly, he's only interested in Wuk Lamat. Why would it be so hard for him to say "I see why your skills are so highly praised" or something? It's direct, personal and doesn't superfluously mention Wuk Lamat.
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  6. #26
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    Blackhole Sue won't you come~
    And wash away this game~
    Blackhole Sue won't you come~
    Won't you come~
    Won't you come~
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aliaa View Post
    Oh? Please do elaborate on these “politics”.
    i believe it's enough https://imgur.com/a/d7WoRQc
    Wokism aside, she say it's healthy for a translator to put their own view in the game regardless of other people opinion. That person now replaced Koji Fox and helped other people like her find a role (e.g Wuk Lamat english VA).
    It's dangerous to think that you know better than anyone else more experienced by itself. Arrogance is already killing FFXIV.
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    hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

  8. #28
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    Vaettir Schwarzer
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    When I saw Wuk in the flashback for the new "allied society" quests I just alt f4'd and canceled my recurring sub, I have no idea how the new MSQ is but I'm so tired of Wuk Lamat and this crappy writing and lack of content that I can't be bothered to even check it out. I'll play something else until this game appeals to me again.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissar View Post
    i believe it's enough https://imgur.com/a/d7WoRQc
    Wokism aside, she say it's healthy for a translator to put their own view in the game regardless of other people opinion. That person now replaced Koji Fox and helped other people like her find a role (e.g Wuk Lamat english VA).
    It's dangerous to think that you know better than anyone else more experienced by itself. Arrogance is already killing FFXIV.
    Oh god just reading these tweets makes me wanna vomit. Just liking the idea that translators should have the liberty of putting anything they want in there is just so mega idiotic, your job is translator and not writer learn the difference. You didn’t write this media piece so how do you take out the liberty too mistranslate what the author wrote. Like at this point just let ai translate this stuff and fire these people. I come home from 8-10 hour shifts and I wanna enjoy games/media and not a political message about woke stuff. Like they do this to so many established franchises and destroy them as we saw with Star Wars, Marvel, LotR and Witcher and they tried too pull that shit with warhammer 40k.

    Didn’t this person also had a hand in hiring the English voice for wuk ? I’m pretty sure she did and if you take these tweets it does sound like a “diversity” or “friendship” hire and not a “best for the job” hire.
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  10. #30
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    Woke lamat is the sweet baby inc self insert in the game. Always there always watching big sister.
    It's like a brand of ownership on the game itself from within.
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